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    The % change not by the level but the amount of what it give

    Try this IV STR with 16 str and then try a III with STR 14 or 15 and you would see that you gain 1-2 more % so using lower version does not help it also have to do with how much it give. Gear would never help your % and it wont ever maybe one day but for now the only way is to keep trying to add stuff over and over and over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    wow, you come into a thread and don't like someones opinion(who has not insulted anyone in anyway i might add) and start flaming them. what a unique approach to the FF forums.
    I have made no statement as to which side I support in this matter, so... no. You're wrong about liking or disliking opinions. It's pretty obvious that you don't have the ability to read points thoroughly as you ask for information to be repeated, in which case yea, I'm gonna have a little fun with ya. :O
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    Quote Originally Posted by tachikoma View Post
    you troll my thread then demand exact figures on an example you want without providing the gear stats so that I can run my sample formula on then complain that ppl are calling you out for trolling?
    i wasn't trolling, im being flamed for not agreeing with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belial View Post
    I have made no statement as to which side I support in this matter, so... no. You're wrong about liking or disliking opinions. It's pretty obvious that you don't have the ability to read points thoroughly as you ask for information to be repeated, in which case yea, I'm gonna have a little fun with ya. :O
    as i said, the op was edited with that info.

    but now that i have gone back and read the revised op ill add that going from 20% to 26% is insane. I wouldn't be in favor of anyhting over 1-2 %
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    Last edited by syntaxlies; 01-21-2012 at 01:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tachikoma View Post
    you troll my thread then demand exact figures on an example you want without providing the gear stats so that I can run my sample formula on then complain that ppl are calling you out for trolling?

    Back on topic: if you have a current 18% meld the absolute best you could do is improve it to:

    .18 * 1.2 * 1.2 = .2592

    OR 25.92%

    and i'm assuming by "Super gear" you mean that the crafter has hit both of my top materia bonus's for modifiers A and B.

    *this is only an example formula that took me less then 10 minutes to devise, i'm sure a developer can do a better more balanced job then I did but should be enough to get my point across.

    Wow if what you call Syntax trolling is actually trolling then people have an extremely loose definition of trolling. He provided constructive feedback of how he sees it. Just because he disagrees with you doesn't mean he is trolling your thread.
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    I also agree that the materia meld rate shouldn't be touched since it's the balancing mechanism of the system and raising the odds even slightly would throw everything out of whack. 1% more successful melds adds up to a ton more multi-melded materia in existence. Having a high craft level is already required to perform melds of any sort of relevance already. Once the HQ system gets revamped and you're able to better prepare/aim for it, you can use your high tier crafting gear and high crafting level to aim for that and that in turn will increase your success rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    The % change not by the level but the amount of what it give

    Try this IV STR with 16 str and then try a III with STR 14 or 15 and you would see that you gain 1-2 more % so using lower version does not help it also have to do with how much it give. Gear would never help your % and it wont ever maybe one day but for now the only way is to keep trying to add stuff over and over and over.

    Please read the thread. We all know this but the thread is about having good gear to affect the percentage to attach multiple materia to gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    as i said, the op was edited with that info.

    but now that i have gone back and read the revised op ill add that going from 20% to 26% is insane. I wouldn't be in favor of anyhting over 1-2 %
    Quote Originally Posted by tachikoma View Post
    *this is only an example formula that took me less then 10 minutes to devise, i'm sure a developer can do a better more balanced job then I did but should be enough to get my point across.

    Hmmm reading comprehension...
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