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    Graiggy's Avatar
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    Graiggy Bloodmoon
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    Famfrit
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RopeDrink View Post
    In short, the only real thing you can approach from a static PoV is your openers/rotations, so work on those. At the end of the day, this is an MMORPG - a good player (in any role) can adapt on the fly without relying on predictable/set patterns. Sometimes shít just hits the fan.
    I agree completely with you. but how ever there are actual tips that people can give those that are trying to learn their job better. There is never one single way. however i have always taken the advice and ways the others do things and add my own twist to it and become pretty good at my role.
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    Claire_Pendragon's Avatar
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    While insignificant, Tank stance does raise some really trivial stuff like the amount of HP you get from your passive in combat regen (2% of max), the amount in which benediction heals you for, and the bonus HP you get healed back for. (Technically makes thrill of battle heal you a tiny bit more as well)

    But if anything, Tank stance should be used for the HP multiplier, not the parry from beast guage.
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    iridemyunicorneverynight's Avatar
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    Raganfrid Vsakj
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    While insignificant, Tank stance does raise some really trivial stuff like the amount of HP you get from your passive in combat regen (2% of max), the amount in which benediction heals you for, and the bonus HP you get healed back for. (Technically makes thrill of battle heal you a tiny bit more as well)

    But if anything, Tank stance should be used for the HP multiplier, not the parry from beast guage.
    The bonus of Thrill of Battle is primarily used (when against bosses) to increase enmity/aggro while in Deliverance. For the most part it remains on CD.

    I don't think Defiance is useless; if anything the changes have brought it up more significantly in comparison to its previous uses (thanks to IR and Unchained sharing a CD)

    Even were that not the case, it'd be a lie to say there weren't any uses for Defiance prior to this buff.
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    Galgarion's Avatar
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    Famine Cruor
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Hey. Graigy. The best time to switch over to deliverance IMO, is whenever you have a high enough threat lead that you won't lose the boss's attention without defiance on. After that, just stay in your dps stance and rotate cooldowns. All warriors ever get from defiance is extra health and threat, so you're really not missing much by staying in deliverence. Pop back into Defiance whenever you want to use equilibriam, but aside from that, just get comfortable smashing bosses face first instead of from behind. We're at a point in gearing that if you die because you were in deliverance, it's because you had a terrible healer, not because you're playing wrong.
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    Graiggy Bloodmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galgarion View Post
    Hey. Graigy. The best time to switch over to deliverance IMO, is whenever you have a high enough threat lead that you won't lose the boss's attention without defiance on. After that, just stay in your dps stance and rotate cooldowns. All warriors ever get from defiance is extra health and threat, so you're really not missing much by staying in deliverence. Pop back into Defiance whenever you want to use equilibriam, but aside from that, just get comfortable smashing bosses face first instead of from behind. We're at a point in gearing that if you die because you were in deliverance, it's because you had a terrible healer, not because you're playing wrong.
    This is pretty helpful honestly. I plan on spending some hours on a striking dumby to get my rotation fluid.
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    Hierro's Avatar
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    Ziero Rehw-bidit
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    Malboro
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    Warrior Lv 100
    As far as dugneons go, my tip is to stack cooldowns and plan ahead for which cooldowns you'll stack for certain pulls. I aggregate my CDs into two groups, each for a wall-to-wall pull, because that's about how many there are between bosses in a dungeon setting. For one group I might use unchained with rampart, ToB and conva, and on another group i'll IR steel cyclone and deliverance with more vengeance and RI+awarenes, as an example. In both cooldown groups, my damage output is good while tankiness is optimized.

    Sometimes there are common settings where you're gated and force to pull 3 mobs at a time, and for that I'll more than gladly tank said group in deliverance with limited cooldown usage, so long as aggro is managed.

    However, you'll learn that being able to put out a lot of dps depends a lot on your party. If your healer knows how to AoE and use their cooldowns to buff their HoTs to keep you healthy, and your DPS know how to use their cooldowns accordingly, then you know mobs will melt and your cooldowns will suffice so you can go HAM. However, if your healer is strictly a curebot, and your dps don't know what an AoE is, your damage output won't see it's true potential because your cooldowns will run dry, and dpsing could mean unworthy risk.
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    ItaruKarin's Avatar
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    I'taru Karin
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    Ragnarok
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    Dancer Lv 80
    I'm fairly certain Defiance grants you a 20% boost to received healing too, which is like a permanent Convalescence. Saying it doesn't help the healer is misleading.
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    Graiggy Bloodmoon
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItaruKarin View Post
    I'm fairly certain Defiance grants you a 20% boost to received healing too, which is like a permanent Convalescence. Saying it doesn't help the healer is misleading.
    It does help the healer that is true. which i believe someone brought up. however if your not struggling for health and the healer is able to keep up then I can see why people are saying that you dont have to stay in Defiance the whole time. If you are getting slammed pretty hard then yes staying in defiance would be advisable. But im starting to understand how to get the most out of the WAR. I am going to have to go through my rotation and get something down and get it so its fluid. This is probably where its going to take awhile.
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    Rys Sol
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    Omega
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ItaruKarin View Post
    I'm fairly certain Defiance grants you a 20% boost to received healing too, which is like a permanent Convalescence. Saying it doesn't help the healer is misleading.
    At level 70 healers can do a ton of their healing through abilities, which aren't buffed by Defiance or Convalescence at all. If I'm using almost no Cure/Cure II/Regen, Defiance isn't really helping.
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    Valora Stoutheart
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    At level 70 healers can do a ton of their healing through abilities, which aren't buffed by Defiance or Convalescence at all. If I'm using almost no Cure/Cure II/Regen, Defiance isn't really helping.
    Defiance only works with spells? If so, that seems like a big oversight from the devs and doesn’t really make sense from a balancing perspective. I take back my support for defiance.
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