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Thread: Regarding AST

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    Please, just stop with your ridiculous suggestions regarding healers.

    You definitly don't know how to play them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    Please, just stop with your ridiculous suggestions regarding healers.

    You definitly don't know how to play them.
    I do know how to play AST
    Just cant be bothered placing combust 1 by 1, AERO 3 & BANE miasa + bio is OVERPOWERED
    Giving spire movement speed instead of useless TP is RIDICULOUS OVERPOWERED

    Dont see how this is making AST ridiculous just trying to make inconvenient and situational spells more interesting
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    Last edited by LachleinStratos; 02-05-2018 at 11:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    So you just want AST to be OP?

    Straight up buffing AST like this is a ridiculous idea.
    Hmm i think Synastry suggestion might be too much but the other 2 suggestion making AST overpowered is laughable.

    Combust suggestion is overpowered then white mage is overpowered by making a 1 spell hit all which SCH can use bane to do it too

    Giving movement speed to The Spire is overpowered too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunks View Post
    While we're at it, The Bole should just make people invulnerable to damage and have 60s duration.
    And remove cooldown on Benediction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Astrologian is actually one of the more enjoyable classes to say, and overall I don't think there's much I would change (within the confines of reason).

    Making Combust the same as Aero III wouldn't really change much of anything for Astrologians in my opinion, besides maybe having to press it a bit less. I don't think this would provide much in the way of quality of life.

    Unfortunately, removing the duration of Synastry to make it essentially infinite would make Astrologian far too powerful.

    I'll admit I don't often use The Spire outside of expert dungeon AoE pulls, but I don't believe a movement speed increase would make it much more appealing.
    I agree removing duration of Synastry will make it too powerful.
    I only suggested these 3 changes because it is boring to spread DoT individually and The Spire bad so with movement speed added will make it more situational than it is now.
    Thank you for your feedback and appreciate it.
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    Astro could use a ogcd to stop clipping so much. They could probably do something with Noct Astro vs Sch as for what I don't know.

    As for allowing combust 2 to be aoe why? Do whm use these spells for raids against massive mobs often enough to warrant this change?
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    Last edited by Jxnibbles; 02-05-2018 at 12:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    The recent Spear rework is supposed to be the counter (Spear being a Crit buff and the recent duration buff) and SCH lacks anything like Assize/Earthly Star or Holy/Gravity, and had a massive nerf to Bane.

    Miasma II was to fix that specific whole in their skill set.

    Oh no, I absolutely agree that SCH needed those buffs. It was terrible in 4.0. My point was just that I don't think ASTs better shielding was ever the reason it was better than SCH. Because technically it still does have superior shielding, that's not where the problem lies. But again, hard to buff other aspects of the job which could move over to Diurnal and kill WHM again. So I have zero suggestions for AST.
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    Personally, I wouldn't mind if Combust I/II was more like Aero I/II, where it has both a burst and a DoT. That way, during phases where we have to move, I can just spam Combust I/II to do damage. >w>
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    Does AST really need an AoE dot? It might be nice, but is it really, truly, needed for AST to be a good class? I would say no. Don't waste your time Combusting all the mobs. Just use Gravity.
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    cerise leclaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by LachleinStratos View Post
    Hmm i think Synastry suggestion might be too much but the other 2 suggestion making AST overpowered is laughable.

    Combust suggestion is overpowered then white mage is overpowered by making a 1 spell hit all which SCH can use bane to do it too

    Giving movement speed to The Spire is overpowered too...
    I was looking at all the buffs as a whole. And you never said the speed buff would be in place of its current buff.

    And having their only DoT be AoE would be... not overpowered but a bit strong. Combust II damage would need to be lowered as of right now it is 500 potency. Aero III is 370.
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