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    Phelios's Avatar
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    Just met with Lord Hien. Spoilers!

    Sooo... this man intend to repay the Mol for their kindess by dragging their people into a bloody and in a likelyhood unwinnable war?

    With friends like these....
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    Not necessarily the Mol - remember, being Khagan gives him a degree of influence over a whole host of Xaela tribes, many of which are significantly more hardened than the Mol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinoto-no-Ryuji View Post
    Not necessarily the Mol - remember, being Khagan gives him a degree of influence over a whole host of Xaela tribes, many of which are significantly more hardened than the Mol.
    Uhm... I thought the WoL was the Khagan? Him knowing us and us wanting to help him out (plus the WoL winning the Nadaam) is what gives him influence or so I thought. Maybe I'm wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphraelAmarantha View Post
    Uhm... I thought the WoL was the Khagan? Him knowing us and us wanting to help him out (plus the WoL winning the Nadaam) is what gives him influence or so I thought. Maybe I'm wrong?
    That's how it shakes out, but only because we were the one who fought; had Hien succeeded without us, he would have been the Khagan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinoto-no-Ryuji View Post
    That's how it shakes out, but only because we were the one who fought; had Hien succeeded without us, he would have been the Khagan.
    But he didn't. Since the WoL is the one who actually claimed the ovoo, we're the khagan. My Xaela WoL is more than a little concerned about the fact that the Xaela may have come to the Empire's awareness, and that Hien doesn't seem to remember that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenoire View Post
    But he didn't. Since the WoL is the one who actually claimed the ovoo, we're the khagan. My Xaela WoL is more than a little concerned about the fact that the Xaela may have come to the Empire's awareness, and that Hien doesn't seem to remember that.
    Whether you're the Khagan or Hien is, it's a moot point. Hien's plan was to use the influence of the Khagan - whether that be him, you, or a Mol ally - to rally the Xaela tribes against Garlemald, and you were (as per the story) 100% on board with that, so it's the same outcome.
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    I joked about that a lot in 4.0, that it seemed like a convenient excuse to learn about the Xaela and massage the Au Ra deeper into the world lore by ... having a guy stake his entire country's future on usurping another culture for personal gain. At least the Xaela seem pretty down with it; the gods let this happen, and fighting is fighting. All glory to the victors of the Naadam. Etc.

    When Grynewaht came bumbling in looking for us I was sure he'd conveniently cause a scene that really impressed on the Xaela that they're a threat and worth fighting, but it didn't really play out that way, at least not very strongly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I joked about that a lot in 4.0, that it seemed like a convenient excuse to learn about the Xaela and massage the Au Ra deeper into the world lore by ... having a guy stake his entire country's future on usurping another culture for personal gain. At least the Xaela seem pretty down with it; the gods let this happen, and fighting is fighting. All glory to the victors of the Naadam. Etc.

    When Grynewaht came bumbling in looking for us I was sure he'd conveniently cause a scene that really impressed on the Xaela that they're a threat and worth fighting, but it didn't really play out that way, at least not very strongly.
    Well they know the Garleans are a problem and did help retake Doma Castle. However at this point, until the Garleans attack them, they might not be doing anymore to necessarily help. Still I did love their lore and was happy to see them. Wished they did more with the Raen, I mean not all of them come from that underwater town after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    When Grynewaht came bumbling in looking for us I was sure he'd conveniently cause a scene that really impressed on the Xaela that they're a threat and worth fighting, but it didn't really play out that way, at least not very strongly.
    I would still like to know a) how he got to the middle of the Steppes, and b) where he went when we foolishly didn't kill him. His presence suggests that the Xaela are now on the Imperial radar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenoire View Post
    I would still like to know a) how he got to the middle of the Steppes, and b) where he went when we foolishly didn't kill him. His presence suggests that the Xaela are now on the Imperial radar.
    He probably came through Yanxia since if you go from the Steppes to Yanxia you end up on the other side of that force field/wall and closer to Doma Castle. He probably came back the same way. Also considering how dumb he was portrayed and how he was the only one who survived again, I am certain he most likely forgot to mention the Xaela. Heck how many Garleans even survived after we all stormed Doma Castle?
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