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  1. #11
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    The only change I think they could do, is making it so you can do 3 per tribe a day. With a current 10 tribes, that would be the only change that they really could do. And only let you get more(making it so you can do 6 a day from one) when you rank up with them. So maximum of 60 tribe quests a day, but at a maximum of 6 from any given tribe. While that isn't what the OP is asking for, that is likely the only type of change(with a 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of happening) I could see them doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    would be limited to the Ananta, the Kojin, and two HW tribes on a single day. .
    i don't see the problem here. you just do what you can one day and wait for the next day. if you had no limit on beast tribe allowances people would just spam them non-stop. at 60+ the Kojin and Ananta give considerable amounts of exp.
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    I'm fine with the 3 quests limit per tribe, but I think they should remove the 12 daily limit, or at least increase it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    i don't see the problem here. you just do what you can one day and wait for the next day. if you had no limit on beast tribe allowances people would just spam them non-stop. at 60+ the Kojin and Ananta give considerable amounts of exp.
    You don't see the problem, because you completely misunderstood my post. They wouldn't be "non-stop spamming" Kojin or Ananta dailies, because each of those would still only have 3 available per day.

    There's two daily limits in the current beast tribe daily system. A limit of the amount of dailies for a single beast tribe (for example, 3 Ananta dailies), and a total limit encompassing all beast tribes, as shown by the marked area on this screenshot:



    Once that limit reaches zero, the player is no longer able to pick up any other daily beast tribe quests, no matter which one they go to.

    OP is simply asking for that limit to be increased, or removed.
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  5. #15
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    With an increase in Beast Tribes, they're almost going to have to increase the allowance cap, as they have before. Though really, it would be nice to set all Beast Tribes at 3 quests per day and forget an allowance at all; having both is needlessly restrictive, but only there because of the ability to continually spam the ARR quests, which has changed to the "3 quests a day" for newer Tribes.

    If someone wants to run around and do the Sylphs, Amal'jaa, Kobolds, and Sahagin all at once in between current content....why not let them? It's old content and will take time regardless. Most grinds are made easier over time, anyway.

    For me, the allowance restriction makes me less likely to go back to that content, because I want the allowances for the newer stuff, and need all the allowances to make any sort of meaningful headway in the older rep grinds.
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    I just went back and did Amal'jaa dailies and there are a total of 6 at the low level I have; they offer 10 and 14 rep each. All 6 together are equivalent to 1 Kojin or Ananta daily. While it felt like I gained rep at a rather fast pace with the Kojin and Ananta--the current reps that should feel like they take time--getting rep with the ARR Beast Tribes is a drag.

    So, yeah; lift the allowance cap, maybe make the rep awarded per quest a bit more in line with current Tribe gains (at least, if I do 6 quests, they should award 30 rep each, since SB Tribe quests award 60), and let folks level their Beast Tribes. There's no reason for old content to be that much grindier than the current, which feels super speedy by comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LynMars View Post
    I just went back and did Amal'jaa dailies and there are a total of 6 at the low level I have; they offer 10 and 14 rep each. All 6 together are equivalent to 1 Kojin or Ananta daily. While it felt like I gained rep at a rather fast pace with the Kojin and Ananta--the current reps that should feel like they take time--getting rep with the ARR Beast Tribes is a drag.

    So, yeah; lift the allowance cap, maybe make the rep awarded per quest a bit more in line with current Tribe gains (at least, if I do 6 quests, they should award 30 rep each, since SB Tribe quests award 60), and let folks level their Beast Tribes. There's no reason for old content to be that much grindier than the current, which feels super speedy by comparison.
    Those original tribes only had 4 levels of rep that you had to work through though(finishing an over-arching quest once you had them all bumped them to rank 8), so the overall experience is probly similar. Looking back, it seemed to me like each tribe took a similar amount of time as they do now(though i havent done the math on this and could be off). The Ixal were the first with the 7 step rep system, and as a crafting rather then combat tribe it made a little sense that they would act differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stellafreyja View Post
    I'm fine with the 3 quests limit per tribe, but I think they should remove the 12 daily limit, or at least increase it.
    I am of the opposite opinion. The 12 daily limit is fine, but the 3 quest limit per tribe need to be increased.

    With the ARR tribes you had 5 tribes to choose between, and once you were past the first reputation step you could pick up more than 3 quests from each of them - so you weren't limited to just 3 quests per tribe and day. The 12 daily limit was what mattered.

    Assume you finished all the ARR tribes while doing ARR and then move on to HW.
    A total of 3 beast tribes in HW, and you can only get 3 quests per day from each of them. You can only do 9 quests per day for them, making the limit of 12 per day a theoretical limit you normally don't reach.

    Come SB things are even worse. Only 2 tribes to do quests for, and max of 3 quests per day from each. The daily limit of 12 per day is meaningless since you can only get 6 quests per day anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    With the ARR tribes you had 5 tribes to choose between, and once you were past the first reputation step you could pick up more than 3 quests from each of them - so you weren't limited to just 3 quests per tribe and day. The 12 daily limit was what mattered.
    You have to keep in mind that the ARR beast tribes dailies give a lot less reputation.
    For example; the Amalj'aa quests give 10/14/20 rep, from the rank 1/2/3 dailies respectively. Since each rank has 3 dailies, a full set of 9 will net you 132 reputation.

    3 Ananta quests, at 60 reputation each, will net you 180.

    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot
    Assume you finished all the ARR tribes while doing ARR and then move on to HW.
    A total of 3 beast tribes in HW, and you can only get 3 quests per day from each of them. You can only do 9 quests per day for them, making the limit of 12 per day a theoretical limit you normally don't reach.
    Ranking up grants 3 bonus dailies, but that bonus only lasts until the following daily reset. These bonus dailies also count towards the daily total.

    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot
    Come SB things are even worse. Only 2 tribes to do quests for, and max of 3 quests per day from each. The daily limit of 12 per day is meaningless since you can only get 6 quests per day anyway.
    That's because beast tribes get added over the course of an expansion. We'll likely get the third one in 4.3.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    You have to keep in mind that the ARR beast tribes dailies give a lot less reputation.
    For example; the Amalj'aa quests give 10/14/20 rep, from the rank 1/2/3 dailies respectively. Since each rank has 3 dailies, a full set of 9 will net you 132 reputation.

    3 Ananta quests, at 60 reputation each, will net you 180.
    But you need a lot less reputation for the ARR tribes. The Amalj'aa will be maxed out at 510 rep. The Ananta will need 1730.

    Ranking up grants 3 bonus dailies, but that bonus only lasts until the following daily reset. These bonus dailies also count towards the daily total.
    I know, but most days you won't get that bonus.
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