Byakko... HM or EX ?

[KaivaC]

Since this is the only relevant topic about Byakko right now in recent memory, question. I haven't fought him since before the quick patch this week. I didn't see it mentioned in the patch notes, but did they fix the LB3 tank strat? On that note, I've been using the strategy where, when Byakko grabs the main tank, the offtank will take the first stack alone, and all four DPS will eat the second stack. It has worked perfectly in every party I've been in (as in no deaths and the MT's debuff falls off by the time Byakko finally turns his attention back to them). Has that been unnecessarily fixed too?

[ErryK]

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All they fixed was that at some attempts he would grab the tank for the first stack and just instantly one-shot him midair, leaving him unable to be rezzed.

[KaivaC]

All they fixed was that at some attempts he would grab the tank for the first stack and just instantly one-shot him midair, leaving him unable to be rezzed.

Ah good. Alright, thanks.

[ChocoFeru]

Byakko EX's difficulty is ok.

It might be easy for older players since we've been playing this game for so long that we know every single mechanic and can anticipate anything, yet there are newer players who will find it difficult even if they're veterans in other games, so I think Byakko's difficulty is just fine.

If you want difficulty, there's Savage or Ultimate, and if you've completed it already, then move on to a different thing, unless you're an "endgame-only" player (wich is pretty boring, IMO).

[Sebazy]

Yep, I'm just glad that we haven't got a repeat of Shinryu EX where the Primal was harder than half of Savage.

That was just silly =/

[Starflake]

Yep, I'm just glad that we haven't got a repeat of Shinryu EX where the Primal was harder than half of Savage.

That was just silly =/

It really wasn't. It was just that O1S and O2S were way too easy to begin with. Even with that being said, Shinryu Extreme is only somewhat hard in the first phase. Both the add phase and the final phase are ridiculously easy.

[Mavrias]

Yep, I'm just glad that we haven't got a repeat of Shinryu EX where the Primal was harder than half of Savage.

That was just silly =/

ShinEX wasn't hard. People just don't know how to pay attention. Everything he does is telegraphed for a clean five minutes before he does it.

[Sebazy]

Wha? What is this over complication? =s

It really wasn't.

Ok so you disagree with what I just said right?....

It was just that O1S and O2S were way too easy to begin with.

Uh.....

Wouldn't that make Shinryu EX harder than O1S and O2S?

Yep, I'm just glad that we haven't got a repeat of Shinryu EX where the Primal was harder than half of Savage.

Wait, that's what I said in the first place?

ShinryuEX's difficulty and the reasons for it being so are irrelevant to my point. It was a rougher fight for most compared to O1S/O2S which were both face roll encounters, doubly so once people got geared.

[Starflake]

Wha? What is this over complication? =s



Ok so you disagree with what I just said right?....



Uh.....

Wouldn't that make Shinryu EX harder than O1S and O2S?



Wait, that's what I said in the first place?

ShinryuEX's difficulty and the reasons for it being so are irrelevant to my point. It was a rougher fight for most compared to O1S/O2S which were both face roll encounters, doubly so once people got geared.

No, I'd argue they are on the same level of difficulty. I can concede that Shinryu slightly towers over O5S, but it took my static not longer than 1 hour of progression to kill Shinryu EX. We cleared O2S in around 1.5. Purely from my point of view, of course.

[whiskeybravo]

Wouldn't that make Shinryu EX harder than O1S and O2S?

ShinryuEX's difficulty and the reasons for it being so are irrelevant to my point. It was a rougher fight for most compared to O1S/O2S which were both face roll encounters, doubly so once people got geared.

Yoshi-P stated that the Deltascape was intentionally tuned to be easier because people were still learning their lv70 rotations and what not. He also encouraged groups struggling with v3s to try Shinryu, which I think that sort of implies where they expected the difficulty to be - in between 2 and 3.