Byakko... HM or EX ?

[KaivaC]

Speaking of Byakko, a lot of parties thought I was crazy when I suggested that they let the OT solo the first stack, and then the DPS eat the second stack when the MT is grabbed. A few of the farm parties were very hesitant to try it. Fortunately, there were other groups who ran with the idea and it worked pretty good. But it seems that pre-assigned stacks with the tanks each grabbing aggro is the dominant "meta" strat right now.

[Dualblade]

I can't speak for Shinryu since I didn't try that one, but Byakko does feel a little easy compared to Susano EX. Though that could be because there was a wider range of gear players might be using by the time one gets to him, VS Byakko being right at the high mark for the patch previous to him. That said I found him to be the most fun of the EX fights thus far (partly because it made me think of Touhou, then about how the devs who worked on it must have wanted that Automata cross-over to happen. And also cause I liked it.)

If we can have a simillar fight to Byakko when it comes to enjoyability while upping the difficulty a couple hairs, i think we'll be in a good place. If we have something similar to Byakko's second phase it probably needs a bit more RNG to it.

As far as the "tank lb cheese" goes, it does kinda suck that the only time players ever see the Tank lb is when it is an absolute requirment rather then as something that could be helpful but other strats don't require it. The only time I personally remember seeing/using it outside of A12 (and also knowing both Bahamut and A12S need it) was against Cloud of Darkness when the stacks got to high. Which given that both DPS and Healer LB get used way more often makes me glad to see we are getting to use the Tank lb a bit more. Course I may be forgetting other times since I didn't really start trying to do EXs till SB since Sephirot.

[RosaLunaCelestia]

Any helper for his mount ? :/ iv no wolf mount and want this one so bad

[Nihility]

difficulty has a rubberband effect because the devs spend too much time listening to a whiny internet audience
shinryu was "too hard!" so now byakko is "too easy!" it just goes back and forth

I think with the way people are nowadays any content developer needs to take in that the unhappy are about 1000% louder than the happy people

[RLofOBFL]

I must admit the mechanic actually becomes quite hard if you don't tank lb. I think a doable alternative is to LB the add or ranged lb both. I dont think that mechanic can be completed w.o any lb casually at our gear level. If we couldn't just LB cheese it, that mechanic would be pretty rough and the entire fight would be hardr . And I have a bunch of orange dps, tanks, and healers in my party so it's not quite just big deeps.

[alimdia]

I must admit the mechanic actually becomes quite hard if you don't tank lb. I think a doable alternative is to LB the add or ranged lb both. I dont think that mechanic can be completed w.o any lb casually at our gear level. If we couldn't just LB cheese it, that mechanic would be pretty rough and the entire fight would be hardr . And I have a bunch of orange dps, tanks, and healers in my party so it's not quite just big deeps.

People did it just fine before tank LB strategy was found out.

[Ayer2015]

People did it just fine before tank LB strategy was found out.

Groups were doing the tank LB3 on the first day....

[Theodric]

I quite like where it is in terms of difficulty.

It's very 'middle of the road' which is exactly the sort of content I want more of in FFXIV.

For those who want something tougher? Well, that's what Savage is for. Those who manage to complete that and need an even larger challenge have Ultimate Coil to tackle.

[Rolder50]

I quite like where it is in terms of difficulty.

It's very 'middle of the road' which is exactly the sort of content I want more of in FFXIV.

For those who want something tougher? Well, that's what Savage is for. Those who manage to complete that and need an even larger challenge have Ultimate Coil to tackle.

I quite agree. Too bad they can only manage one boss like this per few months, bit sad really.

[Bernkastelx]

I mean he does extra aoes during second tiger that in my experience healers just don't realize how much aoe is actually going out on top of orbs. I can't even count the amount of healers in "Clear" parties that I had to tell to shield or put regen on during the first tornado set. So ignoring the stack instant kill tank bug into instant sweep things that wipe group is second tiger and tornado placement. So is this hard content because people can't read a tank b healer and c dps? Walking toward a predetermined spot marked while having the same static fight repeat it in the same exact way as difficult? The fights mechanics are pretty simple and self explanatory. Although oh its new and fun tends to wade when you are just trying to find people competent enough to not lose their attention spans for a "farm" party.