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    KarstenS's Avatar
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    [Request] Please add to the partyfinder a "Stone-Sea-Sky" requirement option

    At least for Savage content.

    I did look into different party finder groups this week.

    It was always the same.

    7 people where not perfect, but good enough...

    ... but the 8th performed so utterly bad, so that the duty failed at the end of the timer and the party disbanded.

    It will not bring an instant win. But it will noticeable increase the chance of finishing a duty.
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    I always hoped this was their intention eventually. I keep hoping they add it. This is more important than an ilvl requirment on a PF. I've seen people with great gear do terrible at their job and vice versa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    These forums are so melodramatic I feel like I'm watching a latin soap opera.
    Any moment now it will be revealed that WHM is cheating on SCH with MNK after having had DRG's baby and DRG is WHM's cousin who is already married to PLD.

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    Yeah, though I haven't done SSS myself (I never got round to unlocking it), I can see both sides and probably skew more in favour of it. But, I'm gonna play devil's advocate here. What's to stop someone doing SSS, beating it, and then just chilling out and not trying in the actual party? Could this be why they haven't added it? And what could be done to shield this from happening? Don't get me wrong, I want this added myself (and I really should go unlock SSS at some point), but I want to open up the floor to opposing ideas and help us find a solution for the problems that could occur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    But, I'm gonna play devil's advocate here. What's to stop someone doing SSS, beating it, and then just chilling out and not trying in the actual party? Could this be why they haven't added it? And what could be done to shield this from happening? Don't get me wrong, I want this added myself (and I really should go unlock SSS at some point), but I want to open up the floor to opposing ideas and help us find a solution for the problems that could occur.
    Well there are different reasons to not play well. Bad rotation, bad awareness with mechanics, playing badly on purpose and distractions. A dps dummy filter prevents the first kind from joining and makes the group a bit more likely to succeed. Of course it still wouldn't guarantee perfect parties.
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    as far as i understand, with limited experience with Stone, Sky, Sea... isnt it limited to HW trial difficulty only?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    as far as i understand, with limited experience with Stone, Sky, Sea... isnt it limited to HW trial difficulty only?
    There is one for 4.0 content right outside Rhalgr's Reach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hundred View Post
    These forums are so melodramatic I feel like I'm watching a latin soap opera.
    Any moment now it will be revealed that WHM is cheating on SCH with MNK after having had DRG's baby and DRG is WHM's cousin who is already married to PLD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    as far as i understand, with limited experience with Stone, Sky, Sea... isnt it limited to HW trial difficulty only?
    There's two areas with SSS dummies: The first being unlocked in Idyllshire for the HW trials, and the second at Rhalgr's Reach for the SB trials. You have to unlock the HW SSS dummies before the SB ones, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaoticCrimson View Post
    There's two areas with SSS dummies: The first being unlocked in Idyllshire for the HW trials, and the second at Rhalgr's Reach for the SB trials. You have to unlock the HW SSS dummies before the SB ones, of course.
    Thanks, the consolegameswiki page is not up-to-date
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malzian View Post
    SSS is an indicator of raw DPS ability, it does not take into account mechanics, positionals or party contributions that are integral parts of Savage raiding. While it is a decent indicator that you have the DPS to successfully complete the instance, it does nothing to show that you have the mechanical skill to do so and as such is useless in indicating a good player from a bad one.
    But...
    If someone can't complete the SSS for the trial...

    Wouldn't that mean they aren't proficient enough with their job to be queueing into that content in the first place?


    That seems like a fair benchmark to set as a toggle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    But...
    If someone can't complete the SSS for the trial...

    Wouldn't that mean they aren't proficient enough with their job to be queueing into that content in the first place?


    That seems like a fair benchmark to set as a toggle...
    Not exactly. Some jobs aren't tuned properly for SSS.
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