STR/DEX/PIE/ATK Testing

[Mihana]

Yeah I worked on that recently. When the patch came out I sunk majority of my points into DEX and maybe a third into PIE so it's not very high overall. To counter that I picked up another rainmaker's tunic, got a +16 Piety materia and had it melded to that. Additionally I got a pair of felt kecks, added +10 Piety to that giving me +14 Piety with that piece of armor alone. Adding in 2 Piety rings I've raised my total to 271 Piety with 298 Dexterity in the trade-off. I'm much more satisfied with this setup though some people I know are insisting it's best to go all DEX/PIE and not waste anything in Strength at all and to focus more on Dexterity than Piety. I haven't had a real chance yet to test out the armor changes I've made since then yet I've noticed Bloodletter does stick more often during Ifrit fights than it did before.

[lordvr]

DEX is more valuable than ATK, point-for-point, at a 2:3 ratio.

So who's right, this dude or carraway?

[Seiken]

DEX is more valuable than ATK, point-for-point, at a 2:3 ratio.

So who's right, this dude or carraway?

Hey Lordvr,

All I can say for certain is that ATK is more valuable than DEX for light shot damage on R52 Zahar'ak Halberdiers and R55 Zahar'ak Feretrars. The rest is just believing that the trend will hold true for higher level mobs. I know from Lancer testing, ATK seems to be more valuable the higher the rank of the enemy. Still though, DEX has no influence on any weapon skill I tested on R52/R55 enemies. So to the best of my knowledge, DEX is the least important stat for endgame content. Try parsing yourself with a PIE 280/max ATK build compared to a High DEX/whatever build. Let me know if you perform better.

Good Luck,

Seiken

[Mihana]

Hey Lordvr,

All I can say for certain is that ATK is more valuable than DEX for light shot damage on R52 Zahar'ak Halberdiers and R55 Zahar'ak Feretrars. The rest is just believing that the trend will hold true for higher level mobs. I know from Lancer testing, ATK seems to be more valuable the higher the rank of the enemy. Still though, DEX has no influence on any weapon skill I tested on R52/R55 enemies. So to the best of my knowledge, DEX is the least important stat for endgame content. Try parsing yourself with a PIE 280/max ATK build compared to a High DEX/whatever build. Let me know if you perform better.

Good Luck,

Seiken

Personally I just prefer to max them both out or as high as I can go with my stuff. High attack won't mean much if you're shooting for miss miss miss miss on targets. Parties doesn't tend to be an issue I suppose. What I do know is since seeing this info I'm redoing almost all my classes trying to raise up certain stats I'd otherwise tend to ignore. Piety was one of them for ARC, and Intelligence was the other for PGL. I've noticed an increase in damage since redoing my gear and I'm satisfied with my results.

[Spider-Dan]

I'll go with the person that's provided the test data.

[Akira]

that only applies for solo lol in party accuracy isnt an issue

[Madruk]

Anyone able to push their dex to 340+ levels to test if its the next damage tier? I find it hard to believe the cap is 280 since it's relatively easy to hit that. I remember reading somewhere around here that the next damage threshold was 340, but he had 0 data to back it up.

Keep in mind since the game's item design is relatively in its infant stage, we have probably yet to brush the surface of what will be possible in the future.

[Seiken]

On Lancer I got ~368STR i think. There was no damage threshold bonus as far as I could tell. There was only a linear increase following a 2:3 ATK:STR ratio (the actual bonus from STR capped at ~280-290). The highest I can get my DEX is 330ish, and I'm not really interested in triple socketing DEX. So if someone else could verify DEX>340 I'd be very appreciative.

[Estellios]

Thinking about it I think I'm sticking with my DEX gloves for archer for now until I get my STR/Attack gloves for PGL done. It's the only slot where Materia stats are contested and I'm going to wait and see what exact bonuses the BRD hands will give. Ideally the BRD gear will be useful enough to fulltime so the only time we would need gear for Archer specifically would be lowman or solo, when the accuracy bonus from DEX is still useful even if it doesn't increase damage as much as many would like.

Personally I'm hoping the BRD gear has a good deal of Piety, more damage and debuff success!

[Kikosho]

That poster did mention that you needed both applicable stats at 340 to get the boost. I don't necessarily forsee a jump considering the 280~ "threshold" isn't a big jump and dmg increase is linear up to that point.

I haven't done any thorough testing but I can reach 341 DEX and just eyeballing it, my dmg wasn't that much greater than 309~ DEX. I've actually been trying to reach 340 in both stats for shits and giggles but my luck is complete ass with melding.