Help me choose: RDM vs BLM

[PuppytimusLeoroccanz]

Screw that, ALWAYS play what you enjoy more. People make such a big deal out of META but fail to realize that picking one "less favorable" job over a "more favorable" one WON'T make or break a raid team. I thought the DRK who did WF Ultimate made that clear??

Play what you enjoy, be good at it, and you will always shine.

I did not said it was mandatory to go with meta nor did I mentioned anything about meta at all. I only told thread creator in regards to choosing one of the two classes. And I only stated that because in casual content it is easy for both of the classes to do good damage but in savage raids, blm would require a lot more work and understanding of the raids and gets punish more heavily as compared to red mage. So if the tc can get really good with either classes, by all means do go ahead with both or whichever the tc prefers.

So with all do respect, I have absolutely no idea where you are going with this.

[Rongway]

Same gear what? BLM wants all the spell speed pieces and RDM wants every piece that doesn't have spell speed. The intersection of their desired gear sets is minimal if existent.

But as far as "which should I play?" The answer is always "the one you will enjoy," because there's no point in maining a job that makes you want to stab yourself every time you play it.

[RainDurell]

So with all do respect, I have absolutely no idea where you are going with this.

You literally said "unless you plan on doing savage-level content, play anything you like", which I responded with ALWAYS play anything you like.

[PuppytimusLeoroccanz]

snip.

Tc said he intends to be accepted in a group easily and do good dps, that comes from learning experience rather than class/job. If tc intends to do savage and get accepted easily amongst the 2 jobs, tc must be really good with the classes and understand the raids mechanics. What I implied with that statement is for those casual content, any and almost every classes can get accepted easily and it is easy to do good Dps and not get punished heavily as compared to savage contents.

By all means if tc loves blm and/or rdm then sure go ahead with it. I will continue this argument no further, I was just trying to let tc know in general that if the tc wishes to tackle savage content regardless of whichever class the tc decides is that a general understanding of the class and raid mechanics are of most important. I did not mention anything about meta/team composition because it was not in the question in the first place and I would mention that redmage has better mobility than black mage and could be a big difference in terms of playstyle for the tc if tc finds it difficult to Dps as blm in savage content.

With that I will take my leave and good luck with whichever route you decide to go TC.

[CrimsonDark]

Thanks all for the answers.

i played wow before, with demonology warlock, so i know what is "turret" caster. Can do good DPS, even in hard content, but need more knowledge about fight... And sometimes this is stressful.

i have tested samurai and i liked, like red mage with combo style. is pure dps job (like BLM). but have a good mobility, so, i believe that is good for end-game content. less stressful too, right?

[Trensharo]

i played wow before, with demonology warlock, so i know what is "turret" caster.

Demonology Warlock is nothing like Black Mage. Black Mage is more similar to an Arcane Mage in WoW - specifically an Arcane Mage with Rune of Power.

Warlock is more comparable to Summoner in FFXIV, and pretty much any Warlock spec plays better - mechanically - than Summoner in this game.

I found out the hard way :-P

[EllieShadeflare]

Demonology Warlock is nothing like Black Mage. Black Mage is more similar to an Arcane Mage in WoW - specifically an Arcane Mage with Rune of Power.

From what I remember, it's essentially Arcane Mage + Balance Druid, with the whole Astral Fire, Umbral Ice thing.

[Trensharo]

Well Arcane mages had skills that used increasing amounts of mana, and then skills which gave them mana back... So that comparison still sort of sticks, for me :-P It's basically an immobile glass cannon with huge mana-balancing responsibilities. Outside of that, not that complicated to play.

I don't actually think there is anything that plays like a Demo Warlock in this game, right now. Plus, pure DPS classes in WoW have different play styles, depending n spec. In FFXIV, you just have to play the hand you're dealt based on the job you choose to play. There is not much inter-job variety in gameplay.

Can always just avoid Demo in WoW by going Affliction or Destruction. Black Mages in FFXIV have to basically play another class (i.e. job) altogether. You still have to level it, so the fact that you do it on the same class doesn't mean much... You just get the benefit of maybe using gear you have already farmed if you were playing a class that shared gear with BLM.

[Sylvain]

Alright let's make one thing clear,
When people refer to to ex/savage and such, they mean very first kill for the first few week. (a bit more for the ultimate).

So unless you're motivated to be in the server first competition to clear savage (the hardest) content and the upcoming Ultimate, the choice between RDM / BLM should should depend on wether or not you'll be in a static if you really want to be the most useful to your static party.

As part of a static, you'll aways play with the same people therefor any actual support you can bring to the team will have great value since every rez you do allow to see more of the fight. In that case, RDM would be a welcomed choice. And that's assuming you're grouping with a static that care about quick progression. Many don't and will bring you no matter the job you play as long as it fits the party comp.

On the other hand, if you'll mostly do raids through party finder (usually the case when you start the game or don't have time to play specific evening), then I'm sorry but wether you play RDM over BLM will have a negligeble impact because your party will change all the time and 7 players skill has more impact than your ability to raise.
Rezzing is great but spam rezzing bad players won't change the outcome since most pf break after a few wipes.
So it will mostly come down to your ability to stay alive and properly do the strat.

Finally, what I said is assuming you'll actually do any form of savage content.

If you'll limit yourself to normal stuff and, at the very most, Byakku extreme, really at this point pick the one you enjoy the most.
The content you'll do is very easy and your party should need any raise. (nothing healer can't handle)

[Jigglybutt]

i have tested samurai and i liked, like red mage with combo style. is pure dps job (like BLM). but have a good mobility, so, i believe that is good for end-game content. less stressful too, right?

samurai is definitely easier to get accepted into groups. still ppl prefer classes that offer utilities and contribute to team dps, the so called meta. play the class u enjoy the most. dont worry about picking a class.100% of us end up lvling several classes.