Rough Draft For a New Monk Opener

[FoodAspectedPrimal]

So a lot of people are underestimating the fact the RoW gives a GL stack. This on top of the Perfect Balance changes have resulted in monks having the ability to execute tornado kicks with relative frequency. If used properly, you would only lose your GL stacks for a short time (1GCD without any GL and 2 GCDs at GL2) It's a tradeoff of somewhere between 70 and 100 potency to allow a high potency off-global to be executed at GL3 (note that because of GL3 buff, Tornado Kick's TRUE potency is 429).

Taking this into account, it is a DPS increase to execute Tornado Kick after a raptor form ability (in the cooldown just before a coeurl form skill), however only if shoulder tackle is off cooldown. If perfect Balance if off cooldown, Tornado Kick can be used pretty much Whenever (but is technically still optimal after a raptor form skill)

My friend and I spent the better part of yesterday theorycrafting an opener for monk, taking all of this into account. It allows for the use of 2 Tornado Kicks within a single Riddle of Fire window without sacrificing significant DPS.

Note that this opener requires that skill speed be a dump stat.

http://ffxivrotations.com/1cnj

The locations of Howling Fist, Elixir Field, and Steel Peak can be adjusted on the fly for if Forbidden Chakra becomes available from Brotherhood procs.

[Mahrze]

http://ffxivrotations.com/1cmj

The locations of Howling Fist, Elixir Field, and Steel Peak can be adjusted on the fly for if Forbidden Chakra becomes available from Brotherhood procs.

The second line, you have Twin Snakes (RoF and BH) True strike, which is outside of your PB window...

I am having more questions than answers.

[FoodAspectedPrimal]

ah, thank you. That was an error leftover from a previous iteration where Perfect Balance was early in the opener (as the old version of the opener would have). Thank you for spotting that, I have made adjustments and edited the OP with the fixed skillpath.

[wereotter]

Something I was doing yesterday that might help here, shoulder tackle is ogcd. So I would wind tackle > demolish > riddle of wind > dragon kick > fists of fire > twin snakes > inner release > snap punch > riddle of fire > forbidden chakra > bootshine > brotherhood.

This may not be as effective as yours, but maybe would help refine what you’ve put together.

[FoodAspectedPrimal]

Your version is perfectly acceptable, I would think, if you are not using a Strength Potion. Without the potion, delaying the riddle of wind until after the demolish is feasible as you wouldn't risk clipping dragon kick.
The other reason for the double tackle prior to the demolish at the start, however, is to grant the demolish the 10% damage boost from the first GL stack.

I did modify the second set of tackles with your advice, however.

[BucklesTrespen]

Something I was doing yesterday that might help here, shoulder tackle is ogcd. So I would wind tackle > demolish > riddle of wind > dragon kick > fists of fire > twin snakes > inner release > snap punch > riddle of fire > forbidden chakra > bootshine > brotherhood.

This may not be as effective as yours, but maybe would help refine what you’ve put together.

I don't think Demolish in Fists of Wind is a good idea, it'll be 5% weaker than in FoF wouldn't it?

[wereotter]

I don't think Demolish in Fists of Wind is a good idea, it'll be 5% weaker than in FoF wouldn't it?

Yes.... though the method I was using was less about the DOT tick and the efficiency of building up GL stacks, especially since not long afterwards you're reapplying it under Riddle of Fire. Even under the old Monk opener, your Demolish DOT wasn't that impressive since it was being applied without any GL stacks at all.

[wereotter]

Yeah, I thought that might have been why you might have placed Demolish after Riddle of Wind.

Also thanks for posting

[Singularity]

Not that I have any real experience with MNK, but could you not drop Fists of Fire from the opener considering Riddle of Fire will activate it for you anyway? Could avoid the double-weave-with-potion clipping that way perhaps, which I would guess is more lost potency than 5% of a Dragon Kick.