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  1. #31
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    Lord_Zlatan's Avatar
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    Zlatan Tarrant
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    Famfrit
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    Unfortunately, developers SPECIFICALLY do it that way. It's not lack of competence or lack of creativity. They want gear to be strictly stat boosts, and furthermore, they want the choice of gear to be a case of "ilvl check, if higher then equip". You can see that with how almost every piece of healer gear have piety in the 61-70 range, so even if you'd be willing to sacrifice a tier of gear to have lower stats, but different ones, you rarely can. You'd have to pick a gear that just can't keep up.

    This is in an attempt to simplify the game, to make it more "casual friendly" and to avoid situations in which players fail to pick a working "set", by focusing on "wrong" stats. And I'm sure to make balancing easier...All in all, for it to change, the developers need to realize that people play RPG games for options. For straightforward advancement, they play action or FPS games.

    I agree with you in that I completely understand why they do it. But eventually its just going to continue to be more of the same, over and over. This is tolerable for a game that is by all accounts a good game, but even then it will get stale after 6, 7, 8 years.

    Maybe once we reach i500 (just throwing an arbitrary number out there), they will do away with minimum scaling iLevel (500 will be the flat entry level) for end game content, and allow players to gear up/pick pieces of gear up based on certain encounters. I really would just like augments for abilities. FFXI got a bit carried away with gear abilities and in addition gear swapping (PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO GEAR SWAPPING), but is it so hard to give a weapon for a DRG that gives it a bonus to a major skill, while also giving it the draw back of increased enmity? I dont think so, if they give multiple options and give a drawback as well.

    In fact, they started doing it with the books for Novus (maybe wrong on that) weapons. But instead, maybe they can add materia that you can slot into your weapons that give them different bonus/abilities/increases.
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    Last edited by Lord_Zlatan; 02-02-2018 at 05:08 AM.

  2. #32
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    How do you think undergeared tanks will feel in dungeons. At this point diversion needs to have a 15s cooldown
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  3. #33
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    It would be nice if we knew what the end ilvl was.

    All that time spent getting i340 (my limited time) was basically a waste. If I came back after a 4 month break I would not be missing a beat.
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  4. #34
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    Zlatan Tarrant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobs View Post
    It would be nice if we knew what the end ilvl was.

    All that time spent getting i340 (my limited time) was basically a waste. If I came back after a 4 month break I would not be missing a beat.
    They also release content too quickly. here me out. Instead of releasing delta/sigma/whatever comes next in segmented fashion, why not just release it all at once and have the top tier gear be trade in from running the instances (kinda like they are now) so that we dont rush to get to ilevel cap only to have it completely obsoleted by the next patch (if u are into the savage stuff).
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  5. #35
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    Ast Eryut
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bobs View Post
    It would be nice if we knew what the end ilvl was.

    All that time spent getting i340 (my limited time) was basically a waste. If I came back after a 4 month break I would not be missing a beat.
    You should never get tome weapons, I learned that in Heavensward
    Just do relic or try to clear the ex primal (start learning Byakko extreme this week before parties expect you to know every phase)

    The problem is relic is being added so late..I appreciate Eureka more than running Ala mhigo 80 times for lights but yeah..
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  7. #36
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chalbee View Post
    Yup, they make everything obsolete so quickly I'm disinclined to really put any effort into gear.
    I really don't get this "obsolete" mentality. Like, just because something more powerful will eventually come along, any current gear is worthless? Even though it's currently the best available? Are you just going to run around in subpar gear forever then? Because there will always be more powerful gear. I really, honestly don't get this. I'm always happy when new gear comes out because it means I'll have something new to strive for. Which is fun. To me, anyway.
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  8. #37
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Leviathan
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    Fisher Lv 70
    My main is i315 with an i310 Ala Mhigan weapon because I don't raid & haven't had the incentive to do Omega, yet. I'll probably craft or make an i350 weapon but I was really waiting for the Relic as that's what I enjoy working on. I do worry that I'm a detriment to the rest of a team because of it.
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  9. #38
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    Just do relic or try to clear the ex primal (start learning Byakko extreme this week before parties expect you to know every phase)
    You need fully upgraded tome gear + 1 mendacity to do him, unless you buy a full set of crafted. ilvl340 requirement.
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  10. #39
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Diabolos
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    Monk Lv 100
    I honestly don't get the appeal of horizontal progression. It was great in FFXI because you could change equipment in combat so even those side-grade pieces had a niche use, but in a game like FFXIV (and most other MMOs) where you can't change gear in combat and our stats aren't really complicated enough to warrant having different "builds", I just don't see the point. All that will happen is you'll get your BiS early on and then spend several update patches with nothing to switch to because you already have the best or that the new stuff is such a marginal upgrade that it may not be worth farming for (which is something that happened a lot in FFXI too, at least while I was playing). I just don't see anything fun in gear stagnation when the main point of MMOs is that gear treadmill of constantly trying to better your character. It's for that same reason I don't understand the complaint of them replacing gear "too quickly". ~7 months isn't enough between bumps? Any longer than that and we go right back to slipping into stagnation territory.
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    With this character's death, the thread of prophecy remains intact.

  11. #40
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    Odintius Baelsar
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 80
    For me the gear and materia is just boring I don't bother with end game or gearing anymore and just do story and normal stuff and move on to another game hoping for eureka but not holding my breath.
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