Submersible Information Thread

[AuricSeagard]

Do I have to fix the submarines every time before I send them out? Even though they are only used once and have only a little bit worn out. The reason is that even if it is 99% good condition, the mission sometimes still says due to the condition the second roll will not happen. If I have to fix them every single time, then the consumption of the dark matter materials will be very high. Or is the unable to have the second roll due to the condition of the submarines completely RNG?

The data I collected says that condition of the sub doesn't matter at all. I haven't found anything that players can do to change the number of misses the sub gets on the second anomaly. As far as I can tell it's a flat percentage that depends on the sector, so the message about "sub condition" seems to be meaningless.

If you have a botanist or miner retainer leveled to 50, they can go out and fetch Dark Matter Clusters for you, by the way.

[yosment]

Happy to hear that. Using13 repairing mats each time to send out a sub is not possible for me. Lol

[axemtitanium]

Have any other sectors come back with Colossus Slab or is it just Neolith Island?

[Ramesses]

It is 130 Surveillance for Kamacite. I've personally confirmed this with the CCWC build as it's the Kamacite Farming build i use for 4 of my subs.

Thanks for the confirming images... this does help clarify a lot.

[yosment]

Kamacity ore will come eventually but just takes time...

[yosment]

what is the success rate of Abroader Otter for you guys? I sent out my eight subs out 4 times a week for two weeks now, and got 2 so far. so the chance is like 2/64, around 3%. Same impression?

[Norri_Matora]

what is the success rate of Abroader Otter for you guys? I sent out my eight subs out 4 times a week for two weeks now, and got 2 so far. so the chance is like 2/64, around 3%. Same impression?

I think estimates were pointing at a 25% weather chance and a 10% drop chance during that weather. Something like 2.5% overall on the first anomaly, 1.5% on the second anomaly?

[AuricSeagard]

Quoting myself from a couple pages back:

Looking at just the return on Abroader Otters, my subs found a total of 454 anomalies, of which 92 were CSCFIFFE on the second try. That means my subs got 362 chances to roll on otters, of which 7 were successful, for an overall drop chance of 2% per anomaly. I got 50 "Clear & Calm" weather results on the first anomaly (22%), and 21 "Clear and Calm" on the second anomaly (9%), for a total of 71 "Clear & Calm" results on all attempts (16% of total.) Of the 50 Clear & Calm results on the first anomaly, six produced otters, for a drop rate of 12%, and for the 21 Clear & Calm on the second anomaly, 1 produced an otter, a 5% drop rate. The overall drop rate from all Clear & Calm weathers was 10%.

Overall conclusion: the drop rate on Abroader Otters is terrible and there's not much we can do about it.

[yosment]

Will a 115 favor have a second anomaly? I am thinking about building some CCWCs.

[Norri_Matora]

Will a 115 favor have a second anomaly? I am thinking about building some CCWCs.

Yes. 105 is the minimum threshold.