Submersible Information Thread

[PepperPandemic]

Retrieval is a stat that increases the collection rate, starting from Poor and going to Normal, Above Average, and then Optimal. While I was reading the Airship thread and checking for minimum values for the Iron Voyage drop (110 Surveillance), I couldn't help but notice that some of the voyages coming back were reporting as Optimal Retrieval for the most difficult drop on that map (with Retrieval between 115 to 130).

So, that got me thinking; What if the Optimal Retrieval is in lockstep with minimum Surveillance? Surely there's a fit that could work with that kind of theory.

And... slim pickings, to be honest. With our knowledge of what is required for the Abroader Otter, the distance required for Deep-Sea Site 7 (W), and tying that together with a high Retrieval stat, this is what we get to choose from:



Knowing that a Favor of 105 spawns double anomalies, I'm thinking the only worthwhile contender for consideration might be the CSyWSy build. However, Iron Voyages required an Optimal Retrieval for them to drop 2 instead of 1 for anything less, so it may not be even possible to pump the Retrieval stat high enough to make a double Abroader Otter drop feasible.

Edit: The Submersible thread and the theories/conclusions that we've worked out have given me a better insight into what I'll be doing with regards to Airships as well. It's a little disappointing that a lot of the information was buried and didn't get updated into the OP of that particular thread. However, I would be remiss if I were to say that a lot of the discoveries made there didn't influence what we know here now. There's a couple of airship fits that I'm going to test out and will be reporting the results in that thread too.

I was kind of feeling the same thing about surv/ret possibly both affecting your ability to retrieve certain rare items like the otter. But people have been getting them (rarely) with ret. as low as 40. So it's hard to say whether ret is affecting retrieval rates or if the otter just has crazy high rng. with the stats available to us.

Have you tried out any of the builds you posted yet? The range and speed on them is quite low. How long does it take to make the trip to Deep Sea 7?

Also, if you don't mind elaborating about what info didn't get updated I'd be interested in hearing. I agree that the OPs for these posts, somewhat understandably, get side tracked by other things and seem to just abandon the threads . . .

[Norri_Matora]

I was kind of feeling the same thing about surv/ret possibly both affecting your ability to retrieve certain rare items like the otter. But people have been getting them (rarely) with ret. as low as 40. So it's hard to say whether ret is affecting retrieval rates or if the otter just has crazy high rng. with the stats available to us.

The question I was posing was whether the Retrieval stat needed to equal or surpass the minimum Surveillance requirement in order to proc an Optimal collection. In the case of the Abroader Otter, I'm guessing that would require something like 140 Retrieval which, as posted with the fits before, is not possible in an efficient manner.

Have you tried out any of the builds you posted yet? The range and speed on them is quite low. How long does it take to make the trip to Deep Sea 7?

I haven't tried any of those builds yet nor will I probably do so. It was more of a theorycraft exploring whether said idea was possible.

Also, if you don't mind elaborating about what info didn't get updated I'd be interested in hearing. I agree that the OPs for these posts, somewhat understandably, get side tracked by other things and seem to just abandon the threads . . .

I'm mostly just bemoaning the idea that the mechanics revolving around ships stats and ship fittings are unlikely to be updated. It's normal considering that content hasn't been relevant in over 2 years, all things considered.

[AuricSeagard]

But people have been getting them (rarely) with ret. as low as 40.

I got an otter with a CUUC build which has a Retrieval of 30.