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    Quote Originally Posted by Zion14 View Post
    Thanks! Funny thing is, I got some kamacite. In the meantime, I changed nothing at the subs. And now they don't bring anything. Can't really explain this lol.
    It's a dice roll every time. The ore is just on wheel'o'loot as long as you meet the minimum surveillance, but it doesn't guarantee the drop. I think I've gotten ore two of the dozen-ish times at 135 surv.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    It's a dice roll every time. The ore is just on wheel'o'loot as long as you meet the minimum surveillance, but it doesn't guarantee the drop. I think I've gotten ore two of the dozen-ish times at 135 surv.
    Am I correct in concluding that 135 is the consensus for minimum surveillance for rare loot (kamacite, Otter, etc.)?
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    135 Surveillance works for Kamacite but I think you'd be safer at 145 for the Otter. There haven't been any reports of ships with 135 surveillance getting Otters.

    As for what's the "point" of the Syldra parts -- the idea is to be able to mix and match to get the kind of ship you want to run. If you look at each of the stats for the various parts you'll notice they all have tradeoffs, where an increase in one stat is paired with a decrease in another. Each of the Syldra parts is best in its class *for what that part does best* but it might have equally high downsides to balance that out. So you're going to want to mix and match parts depending on whether you want a really fast sub or a sub that can hit a lot of sectors in one trip or a sub that gets large stacks of loot that's stackable (crafting mats) or a sub with a really good shot at getting rare items.
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    Thanks for the tip. I've been playing around with the ship builders and I see combinations that possibly give negative values for some stats like Range or Speed. What happens if you make a sub with those stats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by axemtitanium View Post
    Thanks for the tip. I've been playing around with the ship builders and I see combinations that possibly give negative values for some stats like Range or Speed. What happens if you make a sub with those stats?
    They default to a value of 1. It's clamped so you can't go to zero or below.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peddy View Post
    Thanks for all input about the full Syldra set. So in that case, what are these parts best used for? Seems like what would be the "end-game" submarine parts aren't even considered highly efficient.
    If you replace the Syldra Hull with a Coelacanth Hull, you'll have maxed out Hauling-type CSySySy boat. Those are very fuel efficient.

    Quote Originally Posted by axemtitanium View Post
    Ok that's good to know. Can a sub with a range of 1 even go on an expedition? lol
    Nope! Lol.
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    Last edited by Norri_Matora; 02-27-2019 at 05:57 AM.

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    Ok that's good to know. Can a sub with a range of 1 even go on an expedition? lol
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    1x Abroader Otter and 2x HQ Tempered Glass found in Deep-Sea Site 7. Shiptype CCSyC.




    Side Note: Ship was fully repaired before setting sail. The weather effect was Clear and Calm. Its sister ship (CCSyC-style ship called The Purifier) had Volcanic Activity as a weather type. The majority of ships that are sent out at the same time share weather types. However, this is the first deviation I've seen.

    Moreover, both ships had successful double anomalies regardless of the rarity level of the item. I may be jumping the gun on this conclusion, but it seems more likely now that the Favor stat might actually affect the chance of spotting a second anomaly and the Ship Repair Condition affects the success rate of successfully exploring it.
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    Last edited by Norri_Matora; 02-27-2019 at 06:21 AM. Reason: Clarified wording in my hypothesis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axemtitanium View Post
    Ok that's good to know. Can a sub with a range of 1 even go on an expedition? lol
    The shortest expedition is 16, so anything under 20 range is non-viable.
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