Submersible Information Thread

[T_Moon]

Since its the topic of discussion on the thread, My C,SY,C,SY Sub brought back an Otter tonight. Mission time to Site 7 is 54 hours per trip.



I honestly don't know what is influencing some parts of the voyage, but this sub has 90 favor and only found one thing then departed. No missed, nothing else found sea conditions were Clear and Calm.



I hope we can pin it down as we get more missions reported in.

[Norri_Matora]

By the way on topic of the stats .. If what above is correct and Favor affects the odds of finding more anomalies per zone (more items) then what affects the odds of there being anomalies but you not being able find them? I'm referring to the message that's something along the lines of "Additional anomalies detected but submersible status insufficient for further exploration". I can't remember the exact wording but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. What's the point of having two hits per zone with enough favor if the other hit is still unreachable due to "insufficient levels".

It's hard to pinpoint currently whether the second zone failing on the second anomaly is due to a lack of surveillance, weather effect disturbance, or if a rarer item on the second hit automatically fails due to some kind of reduced stat effect. Right now, I'm chalking it up to RNG for the second anomaly success rate. On paper, the first anomaly should still benefit from the full effects of the submersible stats and the CCSyC has had successful second anomalies in the last 3 or 4 trips it has taken (minus the report I made a couple posts ago regarding the missed anomaly issue).

For the ships I'm currently reviewing and considering for my own fleet, I'm enjoying the CCSyC fitting enough that I'm going to convert the Triple-Node ship into that instead. The two CWWC haulers are doing fine for the money invested and will probably be converted to CSySySy once Kamacite Ore drops to a lower gil value (still too profitable not to sell, lol).

[Zion14]

Heya,
I have issues getting kamacite ore. Got some in the first days, but now I got nothing for weeks. Didn't change anything at the subs. It comes from sectors V and Y, doesn't it? Just to be sure.

[MeridaQ]

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I got the undersea spoils with the C-C-Syl-Syl, it is 165 hour trip but I am hitting all the nodes. xD

[Gavril]

Just curious , what is the point of the R50 sites as they don't seem to have anything really worth checking out or am I missing something ?

[Ramesses]

Since its the topic of discussion on the thread, My C,SY,C,SY Sub brought back an Otter tonight. Mission time to Site 7 is 54 hours per trip.



I honestly don't know what is influencing some parts of the voyage, but this sub has 90 favor and only found one thing then departed. No missed, nothing else found sea conditions were Clear and Calm.



I hope we can pin it down as we get more missions reported in.

Thanks for this... helps explain a couple things.

[Dustytome]

Just curious , what is the point of the R50 sites as they don't seem to have anything really worth checking out or am I missing something ?

It all depends on what you consider worth it. They have some unique housing items, but they're small.

[Norri_Matora]

3x Savage Might Materia V and 24x HQ Molybdenum Ore found in the Rimilala Shelf (V). Shiptype CWWC.
1x Marine Wast Ester found in the Flickering Dip (Y). Shiptype CWWC. Second anomaly spotted but condition too low to continue.




20x HQ Mythrite Ore and 24x Titanium Ore found in the Rimilala Shelf (V). Shiptype CWWC.
1x Marine Wast Ester found in the Flickering Dip (Y). Shiptype CWWC. Second anomaly spotted but condition too low to continue.




Both ships are maintained and sent out at the same time. They were at low repair condition upon their return. This was purposefully done to test the repair condition hypothesis.



I'll be the first to admit that perhaps I may have been wrong that there could be a correlation between repair condition and anomaly exploration. Keeping this in mind, I'll be conducting more tests to see what the repair condition is when a double exploration anomaly fails. As per my previous posts, these ships have a consistent history of double hitting zones.

Edit: Another thing I noticed is that anomalies have failed immediately after finding a particularly rare item (Marine Wax Ester, Polarized Glass, etc.). Might be something else to keep in an eye on.

Edit 2: CCSyC came back from hitting Deep-Sea Site 7 and the Rimilala Shelf having found and collected from two anomalies per zone. The ship's condition was above 75% on all parts upon its return.

I honestly don't know what is influencing some parts of the voyage, but this sub has 90 favor and only found one thing then departed. No missed, nothing else found sea conditions were Clear and Calm.

Another bit I noticed was that ships with a Favor of 95 and below are reporting single anomalies whereas mine are finding double anomalies at 105. I don't know if there's been a test yet to see if 100 Favor is a stat tier or something, but I find that to be a curious observation as well.

[Kazgrel]

Heya,
I have issues getting kamacite ore. Got some in the first days, but now I got nothing for weeks. Didn't change anything at the subs. It comes from sectors V and Y, doesn't it? Just to be sure.

I've run into this also. I've had ships going to nothing but the 2 sectors known for Kamacite yet they've come back with everything but Kamacite. I've a whopping 13 ore since these areas were added in 4.5.

[Norri_Matora]

Heya,
I have issues getting kamacite ore. Got some in the first days, but now I got nothing for weeks. Didn't change anything at the subs. It comes from sectors V and Y, doesn't it? Just to be sure.

I've run into this also. I've had ships going to nothing but the 2 sectors known for Kamacite yet they've come back with everything but Kamacite. I've a whopping 13 ore since these areas were added in 4.5.

Kamacite Ore does indeed exclusively drop from the Rimilala Shelf (V) and Flickering Dip (Y). We've speculated in this thread that the minimum requirement for the item is around 135 Surveillance (at least, it has been the most consistent so far). The drop rate is on the rarer side, but having either a faster boat or a hauling boat to hit the zones usually yields more drops over time. Like I mentioned above, a shiptype that I might suggest looking into would be a CWWC ship due to their tendency to explore two anomalies per zone during their 3 day, 11 hour voyages.