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    PepperPandemic's Avatar
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    Pepper Pandemic
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Radaghast View Post
    So question, assuming gil is no object wouldn't a CSySySy be the best overall sub to farm whatever you might want? It's slow but it has 160 surv, 100 retrieve, 95 range, 40 speed, and 130 favor.
    You are trading a lot of speed for retrieval.

    The current theory is that retrieval is really useful for getting the common stuff (crafting materials, lower lv. materia, Company Crafting unlock stuff) but it doesn't seem to affect the rare retrieval yields.

    If you are mostly after the rare drops the preferred builds will get to make twice as many trips as yours and will probably find a lot more rares.

    If you want to go slow, you need to increase the range so you can hit more zones in one trip. Ideally twice as many(or more) zones in twice the time (or less) as the faster ships.

    I don't know if anyone else has done any research here on fast vs slow boats, but I think the most important factor would be how often you will check them. If you are only going to check them once a week or so go slow, if you are going to be playing a lot fast will probably net you slightly more loot.
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    Valkyra Gratia
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    Excalibur
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    Fisher Lv 33
    Thank you for the reply, if retrieval doesn't really effect things like materia V-VI's and Kamacite then I'll probably stick to the CUSyC build.
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    Fortune Soul
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    Behemoth
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    Ninja Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Radaghast View Post
    Thank you for the reply, if retrieval doesn't really effect things like materia V-VI's and Kamacite then I'll probably stick to the CUSyC build.
    It effect things by a liiittle bit. But i do agree that having a CUSyC build is overall much better.
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    Norri Matora
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    CSySySy
    Route 1: Neolith Island (I) > Flickering Dip (Y) > The Rimilala Shelf (V) = 4 Days, 7 Hours, 46 Minutes
    Route 2: Neolith Island (I) > Deep-Sea Site 7 (W) > Sunken Vault (AD) = 4 Days, 6 Hours, 57 Minutes
    Route 3: Sunken Vault (AD) > Stone Temple (AC) = 4 Days, 43 Minutes


    Not a very appealing set of route times compared to the CUSyC. The 60 Retrieval loss is a bitter pill to swallow in difference, but slightly increased Kamacite gathering isn't worth the detriment in stats and convenience to make the CSySySy viable (which hopefully says a bit from me since I made a long post about the latter fit a while ago in favor of it). It's simply too slow and the range sits at an awkward spot.
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    Last edited by Norri_Matora; 06-12-2019 at 11:01 AM.

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    Norri Matora
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    Red Mage Lv 97
    Did anyone ever happen to figure out what the Ceruleum Tank consumption rate is? A quick search isn't getting me the answers that I'm looking for.
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    Last edited by Norri_Matora; 06-24-2019 at 02:22 AM.

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    Echoing Glacier
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 90


    Wonder what this whole bonus stat thing will entail for subs
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    Pepper Pandemic
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky_Mage View Post


    Wonder what this whole bonus stat thing will entail for subs
    Submarine updates confirmed!

    Edit: It looks like they will just give us bonus points to stats based on our subs ranks. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
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    Last edited by PepperPandemic; 07-02-2019 at 03:42 PM.

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    Ami Suhzu
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Has anyone had problems with finding the otter recently? I have a CUSyC build and it usually got an otter or two each week, but the last 6-8 weeks I haven't gotten anything but glass lenses and tempered glass. :|
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    Fox Briarthorn
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by amisuhzu View Post
    Has anyone had problems with finding the otter recently? I have a CUSyC build and it usually got an otter or two each week, but the last 6-8 weeks I haven't gotten anything but glass lenses and tempered glass. :|
    We only have one ship running with that build. Not a single otter thus far, though I haven't been checking as much as I should. Gets a bit discouraging to hype up "This is the build to get us otters!" and feel like you're letting down the fc after weeks of getting trash (months at this point).
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    Last edited by Dustytome; 07-09-2019 at 05:42 PM.

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    Pepper Pandemic
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by amisuhzu View Post
    Has anyone had problems with finding the otter recently? I have a CUSyC build and it usually got an otter or two each week, but the last 6-8 weeks I haven't gotten anything but glass lenses and tempered glass. :|
    Looking at my pre and post 5.0 data I seem to be getting the same amount over time from that build. I have gotten significantly less from another build though. I think it is just RNG.

    Edit: the same amount means 2 or so a month on 4 ships. If you were getting 1-2 a week RNG was on your side.
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    Last edited by PepperPandemic; 07-10-2019 at 01:58 PM.

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