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    From what I've seen and understood so far, Surveillance has a minimum requirement to put items on the loot table. Retrieval affects how many attempts you have on a zone and possibly the amount of materials you acquire. Favor affects the weather conditions and the quality of the items picked up.

    I could be wrong on these, but that's what it seems like to me.
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    Trixie Lula'moon
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    Based on that assumption would it be worth test a CSCS build for 180 Sur, with 80 gathering?
    Its only 5 slower then the CWCC build that i see people using. I avoided due to the low speed, but if Gathering could add addtional items to the loot table, then RNG gets checked that many more times.
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    Merida Quigg
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    I have tried a new build, basically hitting up all the good spots at once. xD Coel-Coel-Syl-Syl. Hopefully that will get me something rare. http://prntscr.com/mlan9n It takes forever though! xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Moon View Post
    Based on that assumption would it be worth test a CSCS build for 180 Sur, with 80 gathering?
    Its only 5 slower then the CWCC build that i see people using. I avoided due to the low speed, but if Gathering could add addtional items to the loot table, then RNG gets checked that many more times.
    110 Retrieval rates as poor for Ramiliea Shelf, so 80 won't be enough to make any difference in the 4.5 zones.
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    Coelacanth and Syldra build

    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    110 Retrieval rates as poor for Ramiliea Shelf, so 80 won't be enough to make any difference in the 4.5 zones.
    I assume you thought I meant Coel,Shark,Coel,Shark. Do we have an agreed upon abbreviation for shark vs Syldra?

    I was thinking about Coelacanth, Syldra, Colacanth, Syldra

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    Last edited by T_Moon; 02-16-2019 at 01:51 AM.

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    I use Sh and Sy, but I knew what you meant, and it has 80 retrieval

    I ran a WCCC build to The Ramiliea Shelf, which has 110 retrieval, and repeatedly received the "poor retrieval levels" message.
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    Auric Seagard
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    In regard to what Favor does: I did a bunch of test runs and data gathering last spring, and with a variety of builds the main thing I discovered was this:

    Favor of 90: Ships got two "rolls" (could bring back two items from each sector visited)
    Favor below 90: Ships got one roll per sector

    My conclusion was that a high favor gave more "bites of the apple", so to speak. I can't tell if it affects the odds that each roll will get you something very rare, but it does appear to determine how many rolls you get.
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    White Tempest
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    Emerald Crystal Boule (X2!) found in Sunken Vault

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    Last edited by WhiteTempest; 02-16-2019 at 08:50 AM.

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    Since you can have zero and negative speeds with new parts, I just tried it out. They are treated as having a speed of 1.
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    3x and 2x Battlecraft Materia V found in the Rimilala Shelf (V). Shiptype CWWC.



    Unrecorded items bolded for clarity.

    Side-Note: It feels like the Favor speculation of it being the stat that determines whether a ship makes multiple attempts at a single destination may have something to it. at 105 Favor, my ships are making between 1 and 2 attempts at the Rimilala Shelf (V) and the Flickering Dip (Y). One of the ships took a couple bad-weather events, so I'm wondering if Favor is possibly used as a form of HP value?
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