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  1. #1
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    Jayne422's Avatar
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    Caoin Sealgaire
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    So, my FC mates and I are trying to collect data by using our first three tries to do some experiments. If anyone has any free attempts left and you'd like to help, please let me know. We'd need an account of what items you used, the color, and a screen shot of the points screen. For instance, the data we've collected so far:

    - Undyed Weapon Only: Worth 7 Pts. (Used Weathered BLM Staff)
    - Undyed Bridesmaid's Sandals NQ + Weapon (Weathered Arcanist Tome): 4-Star Item (Worth 7 Pts., as score with this and weapon was 14 Pts.)
    - Undyed Bridesmaid's Sandals HQ + Weapon (Weathered Arcanist Tome): 4-Star Item (Worth 7 Pts., as score with this and weapon was 14 Pts.)
    - Dyed Bridesmaid's Sandals (Yellow Color Family - Raisin Brown Dye) + Weapon (Weathered Arcanist Tome): Gold Coin Item (+2 Pts. to Score, Total Score was 16 Pts.)

    I can back all of these up with screen shots of the points screen. So with data like this, we can start confirming things about the system, such as that NQ and HQ have no bearing on the points you earn.

    Some of the things we'd like to test are:

    - How much of a point difference there is between an undyed item that is a Gold Coin by itself and the Dyed version when dyed a color from the correct color family and a color from an incorrect color family. So as an example of how we'd conduct this experiment, we'd use the Songbird hat (which is gold coin when undyed for both male and female versions) and wear only the hat and the weapon. We'd start with the undyed version of the hat to see how many points you get and then we'd try wearing the hat with it dyed a white color (because white appears to be the "correct" color so far), and then one with the hat dyed a color other than white (so blue or red or something).

    - Does dying a weapon give it a higher point value? People have already used a non-dyeable weapon to find out that they're worth 7 Pts, so someone would simply equip just a dyeable weapon for this experiment and dye it a color that seems to fit with the rest of the "correct" color scheme and then a random other color.

    - What are the point values for non-hinted pieces vs. hinted pieces like? For this one, I'd like to try and equip items in slots that don't have hints and try to see what score undyed pieces get vs. dyed pieces, using the same method above where you test the undyed version of the item, a random colored version, and a version that fits with the supposed "correct" color scheme.
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    Last edited by Jayne422; 02-04-2018 at 03:24 AM.

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    Linoren Mandor
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 70

    perhaps this willl help someone, sadly I don't have an ethernity ring, and couldnt figure out what was qualified as simple :<
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Anoranda View Post

    perhaps this willl help someone, sadly I don't have an ethernity ring, and couldnt figure out what was qualified as simple :<
    Eternity Ring doesn't work either. >x>
    The only rings that seem to get anything are the Ishgardian Rings from Dusk Vigil and the Halonic Rings from the Vault.
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    Last edited by Mimilu; 02-04-2018 at 08:20 AM.

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    Jill Winters
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    Eternity Ring doesn work either. >x>
    The only rings that seem to get anything are the Ishgardian Rings from Dusk Vigil and the Halonic Rings from the Vault.
    My FC mate didn't have a ring for the "Friend to the End" requirement and did not want to farm Dusk Vigil. On a whim, she decided to try out the gysahl ring she obtained from chocobo ventures. Surprisingly, it gave her a 1 star review. I'll see if I can get her to take a screenshot later. I just find it odd that a gysahl ring worked but an eternity band did not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillian View Post
    My FC mate didn't have a ring for the "Friend to the End" requirement and did not want to farm Dusk Vigil. On a whim, she decided to try out the gysahl ring she obtained from chocobo ventures. Surprisingly, it gave her a 1 star review. I'll see if I can get her to take a screenshot later. I just find it odd that a gysahl ring worked but an eternity band did not.
    All rings other then the Dusk Vigil and Vault Rings give 1 star though (including the Eternity Ring)... >x>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    All rings other then the Dusk Vigil and Vault Rings give 1 star though (including the Eternity Ring)... >x>
    I never actually tired the other rings since I had one from vigil. I just assumed they didn't work. Thanks for letting me know.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jillian View Post
    On a whim, she decided to try out the gysahl ring she obtained from chocobo ventures. Surprisingly, it gave her a 1 star review.
    One star is the lowest rating. The hint is a reference to a specific loyal friend and they don't seem to have contemplated any alternative "friendship-themed" rings linked to a different character.
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    One star is the lowest rating. The hint is a reference to a specific loyal friend and they don't seem to have contemplated any alternative "friendship-themed" rings linked to a different character.
    Which is rather unfortunate...

    As, players can access the gold saucer at level 15.
    And can't this also be accessed at the same level?

    That would mean that it's possible for players to access the content with no way to get an item necessary, assuming there's no alternative.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    Which is rather unfortunate...

    As, players can access the gold saucer at level 15.
    And can't this also be accessed at the same level?

    That would mean that it's possible for players to access the content with no way to get an item necessary, assuming there's no alternative.
    Unless there's another solution that nobody has found yet, this appears to be the case, and it seems like a terrible design choice to have a Lv15 quest call for an untradeable Lv50+ item related to a character they won't even meet until further into the story.
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