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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    This week felt easier than some others. I used this set to get 86. You can afford to lose 6 points by skipping some dyes or having another shirt.

    Any dyeable weapon - Sky Blue
    Any hat - Coral Pink
    Winter Sweater - Gloom Purple (craft this)
    Claws of the Beast - Gloom Purple
    Any pants - Coral Pink
    Dhalmelskin Fringe Boots - Cream Yellow (buy from the vendor in Moghome)
    Proto Ultima Ring (already had this but the Ultima Band may be faster to get)
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    Yue Tanakamura
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    When I tried dalamud red, I got 24 points. I know the extra 2 points came from the hands because that slot went from 1-star to 2-star. So now I know that red dyes give +2 on hands.

    Cream yellow got 26 points. The 4 extra points are most likely +2 on two separate slots. I can see that legs became 2-star so that's one of the slots, and deduced the other one was the feet. (If there are multiple unthemed slots that I'm testing, I would have to use more attempts to figure out which one it was.) So yellow dyes give +2 on legs and feet.

    Sunset orange and Ash grey also got 24 points, same logic as with dalamud red.

    My alts can't access dyeable weapons but they would have been done the same way.

    Further optimizations are also possible, but make things more complicated.
    a) After I find out that hands are red, I could have started testing different reds simultaneously while trying to find the color families for other slots.
    b) When multiple slots are eg. yellow, the BiS +3 dye is generally the same shade of yellow for all of them. So if I know that legs and feet are yellow, I can dye them two different shades of yellow and essentially guess for the +3 dye at double efficiency.
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    Last edited by Yue_XIV; 03-04-2018 at 10:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    there are 8 families, black, white, and the next six circles on the dye menu (last one doesn't count).
    I believe grey is a separate family too. The pattern I've noticed is that the families follow the color of the paint bucket in the item icon. And yeah, the last tab containing the general-purpose dyes isn't its own family, instead every dye in there is part of one of the other families.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yue_XIV View Post
    I believe grey is a separate family too. The pattern I've noticed is that the families follow the color of the paint bucket in the item icon. And yeah, the last tab containing the general-purpose dyes isn't its own family, instead every dye in there is part of one of the other families.
    Was about to mention how the reddit user found that out about Grey's last week but then I saw your username. Thanks a lot for the work you put in each week in helping us find the correct dye family!

    By the way, you can edit a post later to get past the 1000 character limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuma_aus View Post
    By the way, you can edit a post later to get past the 1000 character limit.
    d heck >.> Will keep this in mind too
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    To elaborate on http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post4599774 ...

    Yep, there are essentially two stages for each slot:
    (1) finding the color family that gives +2
    (2) finding the BiS dye that gives +3 within that family

    Stage 1 can be done more efficiently by trying multiple slots at the same time. It requires understanding how the scores are calculated. I'll run through my experiments from week 4. Original screenshots at https://imgur.com/a/ZE4KA

    Unthemed slots give 7 points for any item. Themed slots give a minimum of 2 points for items that don't match the theme. So a basic left-side-only outfit would get (4*2 + 2*7) = 22 points. I confirm this using my first attempt, but it's technically unnecessary.

    Dyeing those items snow white / soot black gave no extra points, so now I know that none of those slots are in the white or black color families.

    (continued in next post...)
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    Edgar Xerxes
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    I managed to get 88 with the Turtleneck Christmas coat (forgot actual name) and Proto Ultima ring as alternate and used Rust Red, Grape Purple & Halatali Yellow as alternate colors. No way am I wearing those garish colors for 100! What the Hell is wrong with these Judges?!
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    Last edited by Antonio_Xul; 03-06-2018 at 02:07 PM.

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    Cynehild Westknight
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer View Post
    German:

    Theme: Gold Saucer Royal (yeah, I dont need to translate that, do I?)

    Head: Animalistic (Tierisch)
    Chest: Underwear (Unterwäsche)
    Hands: Enchanting/Charming (Bezaubernd - I'm not sure which word would be more accurate, both are legit translations)
    Pants: Revealing (Freizügig)
    Ring: Delicious (Köstlich)

    ...would be very mean if that would be one of the Egg-rings...
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    Mihn Saruihn
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    Malboro
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    WoD caster gloves maybe? o_O I think those were the scylla ones. Beyond that, I'm clueless.
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