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    Suggestion: De-glamour Plate

    After playing around with the new Glamour Dresser, I found the system to be almost everything I wanted it to be. I have a couple outfits I can put on any class and used a separate plate for the Emperor's New Fists so I can make my fist weapon invisible while still making my other plates not reliant on a job.

    However, the one thing I found lacking was a way to "turn off" the glamour. While I know I can do it the old way by buying the item and doing it manually, I could see people wanting a way to undo the glamour they put on. For example, they have a nice suit glamour for an Eternal Bonding ceremony but want to go back to the default gear look afterwards.

    tl;dr - The ability to turn off glamour plate, a de-glamour plate, or the ability to make a de-glamour plate would improve the system.
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    We need "cast De-glamour."
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    I wish I knew this before glamour platting, just seems like a hassle to dispel and glamour every single time. Seems like a waste of resources and gill to be frank. I hope a turn on, turn off glamour plate function is implemented in 5.0.
    Like, I love my dragoon gear you get from completing job quests but being close to 70, there isn't a practical use for using them expect for glamour at this point. Also not to mention special occasion outfits. I wouldn't mind glamour platting them if I had the option to turn off and turn on rather than setting glamour prisms on them every time. Idk, I like the concept but I hope it becomes better implemented soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EgotisticYumii View Post
    I wish I knew this before glamour platting, just seems like a hassle to dispel and glamour every single time. Seems like a waste of resources and gill to be frank. I hope a turn on, turn off glamour plate function is implemented in 5.0.
    Like, I love my dragoon gear you get from completing job quests but being close to 70, there isn't a practical use for using them expect for glamour at this point. Also not to mention special occasion outfits. I wouldn't mind glamour platting them if I had the option to turn off and turn on rather than setting glamour prisms on them every time. Idk, I like the concept but I hope it becomes better implemented soon.
    You seem to be asking for glamour plates to be temporary appearances that turn on and off. I don't think they're ever going to do that. They've made a system that integrates with the old prism system and achieves the same result of 'permanently' attaching an appearance to an item.

    Also I'm not sure that you're using the glamour plates efficiently from what you're saying. Are you removing glamours from items every time you want to apply a new one? You don't need to do that. Just stick the new glamour straight over the old one.

    If you want to switch your appearance between your "normal appearance" and another costume, you just need a plate for each appearance, and then you can apply it as many times as you like - free of charge.

    If you want to revert to seeing the original gear as part of the glamour, there are better ways to implement that. You can add the gear to the dresser, add it to the plate and take it out again, while the image stays on the plate. Or you can just buy a second copy of non-unique gear.
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    You actually sort of can do this, if you use a plate with incompatable glamors the orginal gear will show. As an example if i try to use a plate full of crafting gear over tank gear it will error and just show the orginal tank gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurturia View Post
    You actually sort of can do this, if you use a plate with incompatable glamors the orginal gear will show. As an example if i try to use a plate full of crafting gear over tank gear it will error and just show the orginal tank gear.
    This doesn't dispel any pre-existing glamours in those slots, does it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    This doesn't dispel any pre-existing glamours in those slots, does it?
    It does. It overwrites the current glamour with the plate glamour, just like any other time - except you're taking advantage of the rule that if you can't equip the item, the glamour won't show.

    there are some things you can't overwrite that way - particularly weapons, since they're not allowed to be glamoured into a different type of weapon in any circumstances, but I think also you might need to use gear that belongs to one of the classes that could use that gear.

    eg. I know definitely that If you want your bard wearing the actual gear, you can break the glamour by putting machinist relic gear on the plate. The gear is now glamoured as that, but the bard can't equip it, so the glamour doesn't display.

    But I'm not sure if you could do it by putting tank armour on the plate. That might just not get applied.

    (But as I said above, it can be easier to just put the actual item you want into the dresser temporarily, so you can put it on the plate, and the plate does actually show the appearance you're applying.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It overwrites the current glamour with the plate glamour
    Sometimes. It depends on whether the gear itself can accept the glamour.

    For instance, if you're currently on BRD and wearing gear that's wearable by both bards and machinists, a glamour plate with Machinist specific AF gear would work like you described, because MCH AF *is* compatible with the gear you're wearing, even though it's not compatible with your current job. So the glamour would be applied to the gear, but wouldn't display.

    If, on the other hand, you tried applying a glamour plate with Paladin AF to gear only wearable by Bards and Machinists, it would have no effect, because the gear won't accept the glamour if there's no overlap between who can wear both. (I've made use of this by using one of my crafter gear glamour plates with a combat job when all I wanted glamoured was the earrings, which happened to be the only "All Classes" gear on that plate. It glamoured them while leaving the rest of my glamour alone.)
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 06-11-2019 at 03:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    If, on the other hand, you tried applying a glamour plate with Paladin AF to gear only wearable by Bards and Machinists, it would have no effect, because the gear won't accept the glamour if there's no overlap between who can wear both.
    This is the use case I was asking about, so that's good to know (and also unfortunate).
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    The last plate in the glam dresser will remove all glamours, assuming you have enough dispell prisms in your inv. Just keep a stack on you.

    I understand what you're really asking for though. In Neverwinter, you can toggle between a fashion set or your actual armor set. You can also make your armor look like any other piece of armor regardless of level (it destroys the piece you are using as glamour though). That would require some major reworking that I dont see happening but it is a nice thought.
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