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  1. #1
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    Tempest222's Avatar
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    Kestrel Moon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    So essentially its nowhere near as bad as the community were trying to make it out to be.
    You probably get less xp from alliance roulette that takes more time than story roulette.
    Rewards for tomes were always crap so people can stop trying to use that excuse.
    So all in all possibly once everyone has finished catching up on the new patch the MS roulette numbers will be similar or higher than before.
    It’s day one. I’m sure there is a sizable chunk of players that don’t read the patch notes and are going in today blind and just doing the roulettes they always do. Once they realize what changes have been made, I’m sure many will decide it’s not worth it anymore or will queue for it much less frequently than before. There are probably also many people queueing to see what the changes feel like, and some of them won’t be bothered, but others will decide it’s no longer worth it.

    I really don’t see any way that there won’t be less players regularly queueing for this than before after everyone has had a chance to actually see the changes. We know some who were running it regularly won’t be anymore. So will more new people who weren’t running it before now step in to run it on a regular basis because of the changes? I doubt it tbh
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    Nagi Adept
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SourDragonfly View Post
    I got matched to Castrum Meridianum, with more than half of party as sprouts. All cutscenes are unskippable, text dialogues are also not clickable, they are forced to auto-advance mode.
    Auto text scroll? But, what about all the slow readers? (I'm a fast reader)
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    AngelCheese77's Avatar
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    Bjartur Arnason
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by AdeptRogueNagi View Post
    Auto text scroll? But, what about all the slow readers? (I'm a fast reader)
    Playing devil's advocate here, but if they do miss anything, the scenes can be re-watched in the Inn room.
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    kikix12's Avatar
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    Seraphitia Faro
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCheese77 View Post
    Playing devil's advocate here, but if they do miss anything, the scenes can be re-watched in the Inn room.
    If they still need to watch them at the inn...what was the point of this change that made the roulette useless to such a vast amount of people?!

    Well, clearly developers think that less than doubling half of the reward (poetics) is sufficient for doubling the runs length (or more). Guess their budget doesn't offer enough leeway to buy a calculator.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    If they still need to watch them at the inn...what was the point of this change that made the roulette useless to such a vast amount of people?!

    Well, clearly developers think that less than doubling half of the reward (poetics) is sufficient for doubling the runs length (or more). Guess their budget doesn't offer enough leeway to buy a calculator.
    On top of the +80 you get from 120 to 200 for the roulette, you also get base 100 for castrum, and 200 for praetorium. So roulette praetorium nets you 400 peotics, 300 for castrum.

    Originally it was only 20.
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    On top of the +80 you get from 120 to 200 for the roulette, you also get base 100 for castrum, and 200 for praetorium. So roulette praetorium nets you 400 peotics, 300 for castrum.

    Originally it was only 20.
    Didn't know that.

    Still not gonna run it.
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    Talraen's Avatar
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    Ryelle Galashin
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    On top of the +80 you get from 120 to 200 for the roulette, you also get base 100 for castrum, and 200 for praetorium. So roulette praetorium nets you 400 peotics, 300 for castrum.

    Originally it was only 20.
    So Castrum takes about twice as long and gives you more than double the Poetics (140 -> 300) while Praetorium is about three times as long and gives nearly triple the Poetics (140 -> 400). That... actually sounds entirely reasonable. (Well, unless you want Mendacity... but you were never getting that before, so I don't see how this made anything worse.)

    What about experience, though? Does anyone have a good before/after comparison? If the experience reward went up by the same amounts, I think it's hard to complain about the extra time. But from what I've read, it doesn't sound like it did. When I run this roulette, it's usually just for a bit more exp, but it's hard to justify risking a 45-minute dungeon for that if it hasn't increased.
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    Tlamila's Avatar
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    If the sprouts can form a party by themselves it's great.
    As for time-reward count that was Castrum, Praetorium should be at least double the run time since it's a load more cinematics.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    Just did MSQ Roulette myself—Praetorium.

    Wait time: ~10 mins (DPS)
    Instance time: ~50 mins (skipping/blowing through things as per usual)
    Experience (level 60 job): 274,217 experience for the mobs we did kill; 1,338,681 experience for the Roulette (was not AiN).

    My overall opinion? Not worth it. The experience reward doesn’t seem to be anymore than what I used to get running it beforehand.
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    Rinuko's Avatar
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    Lele Inoch
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Just did MSQ Roulette myself—Praetorium.

    Wait time: ~10 mins (DPS)
    Instance time: ~50 mins (skipping/blowing through things as per usual)
    Experience (level 60 job): 274,217 experience for the mobs we did kill; 1,338,681 experience for the Roulette (was not AiN).

    My overall opinion? Not worth it. The experience reward doesn’t seem to be anymore than what I used to get running it beforehand.
    I think we need to wait a few days or a week before give our opinion on the roulette, at least in terms of queue times. It will gradually get worse i believe
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