The new Expanded Inventory View design

[Krotoan]

OH look , someone came in and actually explained the reason behind the change and was met with reprehension, misunderstanding and spite.

I am shocked and amazed..

They wanted to add another ..

appreciate the breakdown, thank you =]

[Moonlite]

OH look , someone came in and actually explained the reason behind the change and was met with reprehension, misunderstanding and spite.

Weird, What I am reading is a general hate for the design of the core game and not hate for the comment. Also a question as to why SE hasn't put some priority into fixing this so the game can grow properly.

These are actually the real kind of answers we should see about housing and inventory it is very Blizzard. It doesn't mean it is going to be fixed. But it also means paying customers can voice their desire to have X function prioritized. This is literally a million times better then some figurehead trying to sell plushies.

Also if technical limitations(server load) are based on the actual inventory you are carrying. Why didn't the people in charge discuss alternative solutions that might require more storage but less server load? Chocob bag is an excellent example of alternative storage. Why people would like the moon. They would settle with just extra retainers, player storage chests and better itemization. This is a sign that one team refuses to work within the limitations of the game.

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But all in all nice answer and Thanks.

[Krotoan]

Weird, What I am reading is a general hate for the design of the core game and not hate for the comment. Also a question as to why SE hasn't put some priority into fixing this so the game can grow properly.


But all in all nice answer and Thanks.

So you're not seeing how that can be read as : Everything you're trying to do is worthless unless you redo the entire base?
why yes Chocobo bag IS a great example.. too bad all the complaints said "this is stupid, why can't I use things straight out of it, just give us more inventory" well this is why!.

I don't think people are hating on the poster, but their message is being met with the exact uncompromising attitude and demands that people post for everything else they don't like. Only this time we're getting the actual background reasons which people are half reading and demanding it be redone anyway.

I also don't think we're also going to get a big reveal on team directive and funding discussions as well.

These posts are GREAT, but if I was using the response to this as a meter for doing them in the future? I'd vote no.

[Tiraelina]

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Are we supposed to be happy and understanding that despite shutting down the servers these problems are still biting them? You can't rely on a flawed core if you want to keep growing. We're struggling to have the responsiveness that WoW had back in 2004 in a lot of areas still. No, shutting the servers down again won't fix it faster, they just have to actually work on it.

The wonders of these kind of games mostly having a skeleton crew between expansions.

[Krotoan]

Are we supposed to be happy and understanding that despite shutting down the servers these problems are still biting them? You can't rely on a flawed core if you want to keep growing. We're struggling to have the responsiveness that WoW had back in 2004 in a lot of areas still. No, shutting the servers down again won't fix it faster, they just have to actually work on it.

The wonders of these kind of games mostly having a skeleton crew between expansions.

And we have features that work well where other games don't.

I'm not going to tell you how to FEEL , but when someone gives you more info and people have been complaining constantly they give us NO info, instantly responding with "that's a stupid reason, besides you should have done it this way" seems a bit counter productive. Common decency is what I'm asking for, it's that too much to ask? I'm pointing out that even when we get what we want, an explanation, the response isn't any more even-toned or reasonable, if anything it's more hostile and dismissive.

[BillyKaplan]

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It's amazing and incredible they came in here to offer us such a detailed explanation. It's horrible and unacceptable that after years of blaming it all on the PS3, we're left with the same hands-tied-behind-their-backs situation where nothing is ever really possible. If anything, the explanation came as proof of where the real problem is and everyone here are simply asking them to address the issue at the core of the matter. No one was overly rude, no one was overly out of line (that I saw), and a lot of people, myself included, have the relevant professional experience to weigh in on this. It just so happens I'm currently working on a similar project for another company where if they want to do ANYTHING it's an outright nightmare so I'm rebuilding their system from the grounds up so they have an easier time doing... anything, really. Sounds like exactly what this game needs and it's not like people have been complaining about the old code-base since this patch, it's long lasting.

[Rufalus]

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I think there are unique challenges in making an mmo with scope this large which many people do not appreciate. Large amount of complex processes, large character data even by this genre standards, server stress from hundreds of thousands of simultaneous users and gameplay experience to be considered where even a small amount of delay on interactions could be considered too disruptive. Without being an mmo developer on a game with millions of accounts it's hard to say how horrible they are at what they do. I enjoy the game and the efforts of the dev team and don't personally see the need to rebuild systems from the ground up... which of course would be very costly for a project of this scale. Dramatic rebuilds of the game to rise above current limitations would also alter the minimum spec and impact players on low-end systems like laptops who may be happy with things the way they are now. Parity with console builds is also something to consider.

[Krotoan]

and a lot of people, myself included, have the relevant professional experience to weigh in on this.... Sounds like exactly what this game needs and it's not like people have been complaining about the old code-base since this patch, it's long lasting.

A lot? I see maybe 3 people hinting they have some experience including you. The rest have been comments along the lines of "yeah, but fix everything"

I highly doubt the reason for the lack of rework is it hasn't been proposed or thought of. I'm not debating the need, they WILL eventually bump up against the limits of this older, complex, garbage system in a very hard way (if not already), but implying they're not aware of this is unnecessary. I bet the guys who work on this daily would give their left eyes to scrap or rebuild some of the systems they have to work with everyday, but their job isn't to set policy. It's to do what the higher ups say with what they're given. Someone who comes in here to say "here's why this was done" doesn't need the response of "your work wasn't wanted or needed, you should have been doing.."

[Vstarstruck]

And we have features that work well where other games don't.

I'm not going to tell you how to FEEL , but when someone gives you more info and people have been complaining constantly they give us NO info, instantly responding with "that's a stupid reason, besides you should have done it this way" seems a bit counter productive. Common decency is what I'm asking for, it's that too much to ask? I'm pointing out that even when we get what we want, an explanation, the response isn't any more even-toned or reasonable, if anything it's more hostile and dismissive.

WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

You where rude to me, as i am sure you where told before, kettle black. You are the one that needs more decadency that needs to stop being hostile and dismissive in the name of your white knighting.