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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I think about 90% of your posts have been complaints, why are you still here? They won't shut the game down, that would be a disaster. It was one thing to shut down the failed 1.0 server in the transition to 20. It would be a completely different thing to shut down a functional game just because. They would lose a ton of players.
    I do not see them losing a ton of players if it means improving the game. From the sound of that post they may have to at some point. It is not a matter of IF, more like when. (Unless they can work a ton of magic while the servers are running, like preparing and releasing big changes for 5.0 as 4.xx is running.

    What I do is none of your business though and sounds stalkerish (yeah i know public blahblah but you do not need to talk about my personal agendas in this thread)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    Are we supposed to be happy and understanding that despite shutting down the servers these problems are still biting them? You can't rely on a flawed core if you want to keep growing. We're struggling to have the responsiveness that WoW had back in 2004 in a lot of areas still. No, shutting the servers down again won't fix it faster, they just have to actually work on it.

    The wonders of these kind of games mostly having a skeleton crew between expansions.
    My point said by someone else^

    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Weird, What I am reading is a general hate for the design of the core game and not hate for the comment. Also a question as to why SE hasn't put some priority into fixing this so the game can grow properly.

    These are actually the real kind of answers we should see about housing and inventory it is very Blizzard. It doesn't mean it is going to be fixed. But it also means paying customers can voice their desire to have X function prioritized. This is literally a million times better then some figurehead trying to sell plushies.

    Also if technical limitations(server load) are based on the actual inventory you are carrying. Why didn't the people in charge discuss alternative solutions that might require more storage but less server load? Chocob bag is an excellent example of alternative storage. Why people would like the moon. They would settle with just extra retainers, player storage chests and better itemization. This is a sign that one team refuses to work within the limitations of the game.



    But all in all nice answer and Thanks.
    That would be correct, and asking what can be done about it.
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 02-06-2018 at 02:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    What I do is none of your business though and sounds stalkerish
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I think about 90% of your posts have been complaints, why are you still here? They won't shut the game down, that would be a disaster. It was one thing to shut down the failed 1.0 server in the transition to 20. It would be a completely different thing to shut down a functional game just because. They would lose a ton of players.
    What about have a team working to redo backend and just release it when it's done?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    And that's why no one is implying this. Bringing it up that it's important and that they should prioritize it doesn't mean we think they don't know. Those of us with experience in the field know that they know better than anyone how bad it really is and that they puke blood every single day making the game work as well as it does in the first place. But if they won't know it's as important to us as it is to them, they'll keep prioritizing other things. I've been in that mess before where infrastructure revamps were postponed because of new features and only when the clients settled down we could do the important work. So this is us, telling them, as much as the people in this thread can, "it's ok. Go for it. It's important to us too."
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    I have to echo this statement.

    I keep seeing places where some limitation or another is hampering what the devs want to do with the game that I feel there needs to be some time spent to improve the underlying issues.



    I can see that this would probably impact content releases, and that that wouldn't sit well with some.

    But, you can only get so far treating the symptoms, the core issue will need to be resolved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhexos View Post
    Greetings,

    We'd like to share a comment from Hiroshi Minagawa from the UI team in regards to the inventory display adjustments made in Patch 4.2.

    Minagawa san great job!

    I like the new inventory display, it is really good. It improves the neatness and now each page is consistent.

    All of my friends like it and we appreciate this changes.

    Thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhexos View Post
    stuff

    I think those C++ programmers should go back to school, or probably change careers. That being said, I didn't buy into any of that. No company this serious is going to have people coding that bad. It's ok at this point in the game's life to just tell us you flat out wont do it. Don't give us legendary wall'o text excuses.

    Also my post is not directed at Zhexos, rather the person he quoted
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    Last edited by Rasikko; 02-09-2018 at 05:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    I think those C++ programmers should go back to school, or probably change careers. That being said, I didn't buy into any of that. No company this serious is going to have people coding that bad. It's ok at this point in the game's life to just tell us you flat out wont do it. Don't give us legendary wall'o text excuses.

    Also my post is not directed at Zhexos, rather the person he quoted
    ...thats .....helpful
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    I think those C++ programmers should go back to school, or probably change careers. That being said, I didn't buy into any of that. No company this serious is going to have people coding that bad. It's ok at this point in the game's life to just tell us you flat out wont do it. Don't give us legendary wall'o text excuses.

    Also my post is not directed at Zhexos, rather the person he quoted
    Chances are whatever noob designed it is probably gone.

    While the software company I work for is nowhere near as old/experienced as SE, and it is a shame that a company of their stature would not notice such things, I know all too well how difficult it can be to completely revamp legacy bad code someone else wrote.

    Where I work, we had these horrible coders for about 4 or 5 years, then they all got replaced with people who actually know what they're doing and it's taking over a year to fix the product because the entire application needed to be rewritten, while still providing support for the clients already on the old version.

    So even if their current team is good, it can be hard to fix things, especially things that are at the core of the application (and inventory definitely would rank there), while also providing new content/fixes for current players.

    So personally I buy the excuse given, even if I'm very disappointed that a company like SE didn't realize/prioritize for this to be fixed years ago.
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    Last edited by Squintina; 02-09-2018 at 05:55 AM.

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    We believe we can do this for the PS4 version and the Windows 64-bit version and we are looking into it. We cannot do this for the Windows 32-bit version or the Mac version, as there isn't enough UI memory required for displaying the icons.
    HAA!!!

    PC limitiations confirmed! ^___________________^
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    If they can afford to give us this many slots for KI's, why can't they afford to replace 50 of these slots for regular inventory slots?
    Hell.. If KI's are so important, just let them overflow into my main inventory if I somehow manage to hit 50+ KI's...
    People didn't understand this before and they still aren't understanding it now.

    It's not that you have that many "slots" for key items taking up memory space. You aren't "losing" inventory space because of key items. It's just that it's using the same display as your inventory to show them so it makes you think you are.
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