Why does the new inventory UI show less items on Expanded than before?

[MistakeNot]

I don't see how the old expanded inventory is superior to the new one.

With the old expanded inventory you could see more items on the screen at once. (100 items at once vs the 70 items with the new one)
This also led to us having fewer tabs to go through - everything fit into three tabs, unlike now where there are four tabs to go through.

[Elamys]

With the old expanded inventory you could see more items on the screen at once. (100 items at once vs the 70 items with the new one)
This also led to us having fewer tabs to go through - everything fit into three tabs, unlike now where there are four tabs to go through.

I almost never had to click onto that 2nd tab too. They could surely get the expanded inventory down to 2 tabs.

[Callinon]

I don't see how the old expanded inventory is superior to the new one.

Old Vs. New

You don't see how it's better to show 100 items in "expanded" view rather than 70 items?

[Keliae]

All that screenshot did was make me sad. More viewable slots! Dividers! Less tabs!

[Syrehn]

I don't see how the old expanded inventory is superior to the new one.

It was better because we could see ALL the bags at once, and didn't have to dick around with tab clicking. There's enough excessive clicking in the game already, we don't need more.

What we want is the same 5x7 layout we just got but with the view of all 4 bags at once when using the "expanded" option. No. Tabbing.

[Laraul]

It was better because we could see ALL the bags at once, and didn't have to dick around with tab clicking. There's enough excessive clicking in the game already, we don't need more.

The old inventory split it into 100 items on the first tab, 40 on items on the second, then key items and crystals on the third. It did not show all bags at once, at least not after 4.0.

With the new 5x7 layout, the inventory, armoury chest, and saddlebag all share a unified interface. And with four bags instead of five and a half, sorting by tab works a lot better. Also the item search feature now specifies the correct tab while using the expanded layout.

Some people win with the new system, and some people lose. That's always going to be the case. I for one personally prefer the new layout. I'm sorry you don't.

[LunaP]

The old inventory split it into 100 items on the first tab, 40 on items on the second, then key items and crystals on the third. It did not show all bags at once, at least not after 4.0.

With the new 5x7 layout, the inventory, armoury chest, and saddlebag all share a unified interface. And with four bags instead of five and a half, sorting by tab works a lot better. Also the item search feature now specifies the correct tab while using the expanded layout.

Some people win with the new system, and some people lose. That's always going to be the case. I for one personally prefer the new layout. I'm sorry you don't.

I don't see the reason to argue that both sides shouldn't have the option to choose what they want vs just 1 side winning though? It was easier to view in the old vs the new, since its to compact and less space to view making it extremely annoying to click back and forth, and not having the option for either is annoying as well.

Not to mention they already stated the 5x7 layout for x 4 panel vs 2 which was the argument to begin with (which multiple people pointed out to you as well), not sure why you left it out in your comment. It's not about winning, its about appeasing both sides, its not hard to think of everyone.

[Alleo]

Some people win with the new system, and some people lose. That's always going to be the case. I for one personally prefer the new layout. I'm sorry you don't.

So how about an option? I mean they simply could have introduced the new layout as a third option and voila we only have winners...

[Sindele]

With the new 5x7 layout, the inventory, armoury chest, and saddlebag all share a unified interface. And with four bags instead of five and a half, sorting by tab works a lot better. Also the item search feature now specifies the correct tab while using the expanded layout.

Except for my 8 retainers, who now all have an interface that went up by a page in total - an awkward half-page at that. Very unified.

Also, /isearch specification was actually *more* accurate before once you got over the initial hump of figuring out how it was numbered. All it tells me now is that it is somewhere in a vague mass of 70 items, marking yet another loss of granularity.

[Sindele]

So, for those who haven't seen it, the FFXIV reddit has a translated post from the Lead UI Designer Hiroshi Minagawa on the new layout. (I'm not going to reiterate it here, go read it if you're curious.)

While I understand and accept the technical limitations, I still have to confess that I'm in the camp of those who can't accept it as it is. It's certainly the right technical decision to make, but the burden the current (and still-incomplete) solution imposes upon what is essentially the most vital component of the MMO user experience during the time it will take to implement a superior display solution is a bitter pill to be told to swallow, and I'm not convinced that we couldn't have continued on with a long-term insufficient but short-term superior setup until the new one was more robustly featured.