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    Llugen's Avatar
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    [BLM] Just let Fire IV proc the Firestarter Trait.

    Dear SE,

    In case you haven't figured it out, most of us are thoroughly unsatisfied with the changes to BLM. Returning the potency of Fire IV was pretty basic, but thank you for the un-nerf, I suppose. TRULY thank you, though, for the Aetherial Manipulation change. The 10 second recast will be lovely, but I don't think you realize that without any more reliable system for obtaining procs, using AM results in clipping the GCD, which is a huge no-no by playerbase standards. This is also a pretty big issue with Between the Lines.

    I made several threads-worth of fancy suggestions hoping that you may consider giving BLM the "overhaul" that WAR instead got (which, mind you, literally not a single WAR in the game asked for), but you know what? It's ok. I think you'll like this one because it's nice and simple:


    Just give Fire IV access to the Firestarter Trait. That's it.

    This will mean a pretty fair chance at no longer needing to cast Fire I every Astral Fire rotation (I don't understand why you think it's appropriate to be using the level 2 spell at level 70 still in the MAIN ROTATION). Further, this will mean the ability to weave off-GCDs like Aetherial Manipulation and Swiftcast and Addle without needing to clip.

    If you REALLY want to go above and beyond, give us that "stackable Firestarter/Thundercloud" adjustment that we've been begging for since 2.x as well. That would really go a long way. But really just let Fire IV proc Firestarter. You can do it, I believe in you.


    Sincerely,
    Angry BLMs who still have to clip casts.



    PS: Note that I didn't bother thanking you for the Transpose "buff" because it's basically useless, so If you're in a reading kind of mood, it'd be lovely if you could finally do something to Freeze such as the suggestion you can find in this thread to actually make BLM AOE damage meaningful again for the first time since 2.x: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Lv.-35-Freeze

    In case it wasn't hammered home, your nerf to SMN AOE damage today still will not be outweighed by BLM AOE damage, and by your logic BLM is "raw damage no utility", so this is very poor design.
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    Last edited by Llugen; 01-30-2018 at 10:08 AM.

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    Cacho'rro Dos'ventos
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    So let's make Fire I useless? and dumb down the BLM rotation to the ground?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    So let's make Fire I useless? and dumb down the BLM rotation to the ground?
    Pretty much this would be the result of OP's suggestion. Firestarter and Thundercloud should just ditch their recast and serve as an oGCD when used, and Fire IV itself really should just be at GCD. That'd solve any remaining issues.

    But for now, BLM will be in the best spot it's been in since Heavensward, with objectively higher damage than it used to, even if it lost ease of keeping up Enochian for consistency and sustain damage
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    I'd agree with this only if we also got trait that changed F1 to F4 when Eno is active. I don't want go back to when I had 3 different Stone spells on my bar as WHM.
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    Waliel Hla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    So let's make Fire I useless? and dumb down the BLM rotation to the ground?
    #BringBackARRBLM

    Best thing was people back then couldn't play BLM properly when your whole rotation was basically 5 buttons and 3 of those you used only once per rotation.
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    Yoshi-P is doing his best and is patching Endwalker. Please wait warmly until it is ready.

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    Yes, make Fire I "useless" at level 70 with Enhanced Enochian. I see no issue with this at all.

    If you really needed the proc from Sharpcast or get unlucky then you could cast Fire I, but lessening its importance in the main rotation should have happened a long time ago, but here we are at level 70 still casting the level 2 spell. This is stupid and is the antithesis of "'splosions".
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    I don't want to play ARR BLM. No thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zuzu-bq View Post
    I don't want to play ARR BLM. No thanks.
    Agreed. If people want to play ARR BLM, pickup RDM
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    Shiro Terkhev
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    Level sync is already annoying enough. Making a spell useless just because of argument like "it's lvl 2 spell" will make it even worse. Also, most classes use their low level skills, they are part of their core rotation.
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    That would increase BLMs DPS by ALOT, as well as dumb down the rotation. Bad idea.
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