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  1. #1
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    DRKoftheAzure's Avatar
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    Gridania and Ul'dah (because Ishgard not allowed to be starting city-state :c)
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    Strea Leonhart
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100

    Stormblood Expansion was a mistake...

    From class/job adjustments to stat adjustments on normal enemies, bosses, and player characters, the game no longer is fun to play for people who got into the game before Stormblood launched(which is kinda debatable based on other variables...) because of things being to easy to do or too complicated to figure out because of how much RNG that's related to the class/job(AST and MCH are notorious for this and DRK to an extent but the added RNG made 1 stat actually worth investing in for DRK)

    Generating enmity/aggro wasn't really that hard to do before, it's just 1 person has to go get themselves by something that shouldn't have killed if they attacked the same target as the tank(or everyone but the tank because they thought AoE spamming because they could was a great idea except for when it resulted in a wipe)

    In a game where only DPS matters(which is how RPGs generally focus on first for battle encounters) but if people don't care about group effort then just make EVERYTHING DOABLE SOLO WITH NO EFFORT ON THE PLAYERS PART.

    Because clearly that worked for lot of other games that did the same thing right(even though they were originally made with group content first)
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    Skos's Avatar
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    Tater Thot
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    Moogle
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    Machinist Lv 70
    I don't know man, I'm enjoying Stormblood and joined way before it launched.

    Also where do people get the idea that MCH is this crazy RNG-fiesta class? It's not even remotely comparable to AST.
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    Ryaz's Avatar
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Yeah, MCHs biggest issue is that you have to squeeze most of its DPS into 10 seconds windows every minute. If you make a mistake or mechanics screw you up, it's very unforgiving.
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    Yeah, MCHs biggest issue is that you have to squeeze most of its DPS into 10 seconds windows every minute. If you make a mistake or mechanics screw you up, it's very unforgiving.
    Hell that's why I'm leveling other DPS at the moment. I like the class but I don't get satisfaction out of hitting that ten second window every time like other people do; and actively feel like terrible when I miss even one window. That's not to say the class is bad however, just that I've come to an understanding since SB dropped that it's current incarnation isn't for me.

    The rest? Ehhh, the only thing I dislike with SB is that we keep getting more of the same. I would like to see more game modes added and for them to actually make fates viable again, or hell give me a relic to actually work on. Right now there's very little to keep me grounded between patch cycles and that's a shame because I do recognize the level of effort the developers are putting in.
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Yes,

    I prefered Heavensward. Its gameplay, its story, its primals... I truly miss it sometimes but...

    I enjoy Stormblood and I am still having a lot of fun despite what I mentionned. Some adjusments were really welcomed.
    So... no.

    I'd say, you speak for yourself. Some people will agree with you, others won't, changes will always divide.
    That's all.
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    the game no longer is fun to play for people who got into the game before Stormblood launched(which is kinda debatable based on other variables...) because of things being to easy to do or too complicated to figure out because of how much RNG that's related to the class/job(AST and MCH are notorious for this and DRK to an extent but the added RNG made 1 stat actually worth investing in for DRK)
    I have been playing since early HW and I am enjoying SB very much.

    Ast's rng is absolutely not unique to SB at all. It was actually worse in HW because you had even less tools to mitigate the card rng or to turn an unwanted card into something else potentially useful.

    And as far as I'm aware drk no longer has rng in their mechanics. Can't speak for mch, I know too little about that class.

    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    In a game where only DPS matters(which is how RPGs generally focus on first for battle encounters) but if people don't care about group effort then just make EVERYTHING DOABLE SOLO WITH NO EFFORT ON THE PLAYERS PART.
    People don't care about group effort? Something tells me you pug a lot. This is the case for pugging in every game, people always care less about group effort when it's with random people. I'm in a static and group effort is one of our priorities.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 01-30-2018 at 02:39 AM.

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    TheLittlestLala's Avatar
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    Little Mcsmall
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    Leviathan
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    I main AST and I don't have any problems with their RNG.
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheLittlestLala View Post
    I main AST and I don't have any problems with their RNG.
    Yup, same.
    Once you know how to prepare your card, it's not that much a problem.
    With Shuffle and Spread at 30s + Sleeve draw every 120s now and even minor arcana. There's plenty of way to efficiently deal with it.
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Flan Vongola
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I still blame them for making such a huge announcement during the Fan Festivals about that so much "battle system revamp" which was nothing different than now except some more skills + job gauges + simplifying all jobs to a level so even casual players can reach high numbers (looks at redmage).

    But all in honesty? This game suffers of being always the same content throughout the years. They think its fun for veteran players to run the same and all roulette every day, week and month.
    Actually I do not want to see more kill enemies in dungeons XXX times. I wish they would add some new mechanics to roulettes in general. For example:

    1. Thieves have invaded the dungeon and want to try to steal the treasure. Catch them before they reach in X minutes before they reach the goal
    2. The dungeon has been lost in the void. Gather light orbs in X minutes to complete the dungeon.
    3. 5 Npc kids got kidnapped and you have to find them all throughout the whole dungeon, you have X times to complete.
    4. Riddles and various other puzzles

    Its all about kill this mob, kill this boss.. Sometimes I end up being brain dead and sleepy cause many dungeons lose their interest and "adventour" feeling like. Cause it has been the same 1000th sastasha run since idk 2.0 or earlier. So instead of meetin the same mobs in a dungeon, you would have those conditions replaced with them. This would shake up old content so much, Im sure people would enjoy it more.
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 01-30-2018 at 02:46 AM.

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    Vstarstruck's Avatar
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    Beastmistress Milk
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    I still blame them for making such a huge announcement during the Fan Festivals about that so much "battle system revamp" which was nothing different than now except some more skills + job gauges + simplifying all jobs to a level so even casual players can reach high numbers (looks at redmage).
    I think you are using "casual" wrong. Also I seen people having problems playing it right
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