4.2 Warrior Post On Reddit

**BluexBird** · 01-29-2018 08:05 PM

Laughing so hard at that pic. LOL

Anyway, only reason I didn't already use skill speed before is because it would cause my skills to be up out of sync. Now that I don't have to sync Berserk with IR, or even wait for a full beast gauge for IR, one can safely max skill speed and just spam away with no worries.

Assuming your GCDs don't clip though, I don't think we'll need much under 2.4s recast to hit the 5 Fell Cleaves. Unless your connect is really REALLY bad.

**Chrono_Rising** · 01-29-2018 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by Galaktica

Again, the numbers don't interest me. This is a pic from that post and the reason I am not looking forward to these changes:

Play style may not be for everyone. I’m mainly concerned with people who think net damage got nerfed.

**Gumbercules** · 01-29-2018 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Nedkel

If its true, i am going to change my job. xD

However why does everyone is so heated up by those changes, we should wait for the patch and then test the dps ourselves and compare it with the older numbers.

wait for the patch to test things!? are you insane! =O That is not how we do things! >

**Satarn** · 01-29-2018 08:57 PM

To be fair, this analysis is still made in a vacuum and if you read the whole thread, the author later states that taking raid buffs into account, it will be either a buff or nerf depending on your party composition. However any panic regarding some massive dps nerf is indeed unwarranted.
That said, most people remain salty about what is illustrated so perfectly in the earlier mentioned picture rather than any presumed dps loss.

Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising

Play style may not be for everyone.

This would be a stronger argument, if not for the fact that we've already got a tank job with very similar playstyle.

**Chrono_Rising** · 01-29-2018 09:01 PM

That is meant to be an argument point. It is meant to say that I’m not commenting on its playstyle, recognizing that that criteria is something which is subjective.

I also do not see any mention of raid buff nerf in their post. Are you looking in the comments?

**Gumbercules** · 01-29-2018 09:11 PM

problem with playstyle arguments is you are porking over the current "warrior". I will personally enjoy this "style" for warrior more but i am not by any means a war main. I hated this crap from Blizzard come every gd xpac, so it would be unfair for me to not call it out here. (SB changes were "additions" things like this and brd for example are "reworks") Reworks are often very divisive for a said class' community. (brd i forgave too cuz imo this was the "natural" progression for it and bow mage was just a snaffu)

**Satarn** · 01-29-2018 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising

I also do not see any mention of raid buff nerf in their post. Are you looking in the comments?

Yeah. Here is the comment I am referring to. Just thought it should be mentioned for precision's sake.

**FreyjaAshe** · 01-29-2018 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Mycow8me

Knew it, sks and det melds. Infusion to capitalize that small window. There's no reason to worry about directhit when your strongest hits that matter are going to direct anyways.

Technically they could even sks and tenacity for some extra mitigation on the side. Must be nice to not have to worry about melding full direct like the other 2 tanks.

Edit: If you play warrior and the other 2 tanks, you will end up either uncaring of your melds for drk and pld or you will be switching melds in and out... very annoying.

Crit will probably be king again because higher Crit stat = more damage from your crits, which we now are going to have a ton of.

SkS. to a minimum value then probably some combination of Crit and DH (for the other like 90% of the fight that you’re not in IR)

**Chrono_Rising** · 01-29-2018 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Satarn

Yeah. Here is the comment I am referring to. Just thought it should be mentioned for precision's sake.

Fair it works better some comps than others. I think we’ll need to wait for stars for a complete answer there.

**Fyce** · 01-30-2018 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by Satarn

This would be a stronger argument, if not for the fact that we've already got a tank job with very similar playstyle.

I want to tackle this argument regarding "WAR is now the same as PLD".
That's only relevant when talking about the DPS rotation of the jobs. You now have a very long downtime of a repetitive rotation involving aroung 6 skills, and a strong but short burst phase where you mostly spam one button. So yeah, they're pretty much both the same in that aspect.

HOWEVER.

The tanking aspect of the two jobs, mainly regarding aggro management and damage mitigation is still very distinct. And now that Warrior will be able to very easily do some stance dancing without much repercussion at all, -such as using Inner Beast more freely with a minimal DPS loss, while also taking advantage of the "downtime" period of the rotation to use Unchained (which should've got its cooldown reduced to 90s btw, but I digress)- the differences are even more important.

This will translate into the WAR being even more able to have a very flexible tanking playstyle which will be very useful to optimize healer's synergy. And this is an aspect of the 4.2 change that very few people talk about. They still have this mindset where Warrior is just a DPS job with a blue icon. Which is why they are mostly focusing on the DPS rotation being extremely simplified now... I mean, I do agree that the simplification is brutal. But only focusing on that is, in my opinion, a mistake.

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