Are you consdering, or have withdrew auto rewenal/ sub due to the 4.2 patch notes?

**Ametrine** · 01-28-2018 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by Cakekizyy

I had 6 retainers full before I started purging to make room for crafting mats.

Of what? This is what I don't understand. What the heck are you guys even hoarding

**EorzeaHero69** · 01-28-2018 04:50 AM

PLD nerf isn't that bad imo. Only Shield Swipe and Holy Spirit will have slightly less potency, but everything else on it hasn't been changed. I lose a small amount of DPS yes (I think around 1% or something), but that doesn't make PLD useless from those changes.

**Darrcyphfeid** · 01-28-2018 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by Ametrine

Of what? This is what I don't understand. What the heck are you guys even hoarding

I don't really mess around with glamour too much, and I have a retainer 3/4 full of glamour gear.

I also have 3 retainers that I set aside for leveling gear, which is streamlined as much as I was willing to go. That being Ironworks + Dreadwyrm, Halonic + 5 crafted rings, Shire + Alexandrian + Proto-Ultima, and Yanxian + 5 crafted rings. Would be worse if I had cared enough to keep hold of any of the Alliance Raid gear. And a retainer full of materia and items for the Zodiac and Anima weapons, which will be cut down significantly Tuesday and a bit more once I finish up with my last set of Animus books.

It really does add up quite quickly when you're playing with most/all jobs.

**Claviusnex** · 01-28-2018 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by Ametrine

Of what? This is what I don't understand. What the heck are you guys even hoarding

I don't consider it hoarding but I fill up most of my Retainer space with crafting materials. With the way new recipes continue to use items lower than they are you never know what you will need. Then there are the mildewed, moldy, etc dungeon drops that can make some money with old materials as well. So it comes down to a question of how do I want to use my time? Do I want to go out every time to gather what I need or cache extra materials in my Retainer. I think a lot of us rather gather a lot and store it rather than decide what we will craft then obtain the materials.

**Squintina** · 01-28-2018 06:12 AM

I doubt many people would unsub because of that. Many people have different priorities when it comes to the game.

I couldn't possible care less about glamour and so the dresser is a feature I wasn't really planning on using in the first place, so its implementation is almost irrelevant. The chocobo saddles are what I'm looking forward to and my 999 aetheryte tickets

. Would I have liked a 3rd free retainer? (especially since I already have some I rent) Sure, but I'd have been fine if they announced no new retainers at all, so I'm fine with not having another free retainer, makes no difference to me as I'm happy with my 2+2 setup and don't plan on changing it anytime soon.

There is enough content that I do that the patch is just a bonus. As it is I barely have enough time to do everything I want to do on a work day. A bit of that is because being a player that came back and made a brand new character around when Stormblood launched, and being a completionist, I have plenty of older content to still go through. I enjoy my roulettes, beast tribes, my weekly command dungeon (when my rested exp bar is really full), my hunting bills, and still have many dungeons/trials/raids to go around and finish, still working on ARR sightseeing log, the non-plus sidequests I skipped, leveling up all my jobs, getting stuff from WT and maps, and enough leves/fates/gates to work on my challenge log and achievements.

So even if this patch had only been QOL stuff and no new content at all, it wouldn't have mattered to me and anyone else who still has plenty of content they want to do in this game.

A patch being unsub-worth would be more for older players, and it would depend on whether the other content that is being released (like the new weekly glamour game, the new instances, the new pvp map, the enhanced perform) are things they care about or not. Everyone's different.

My FC has a mix of all sorts of players: new, returners, raiders, non-raiders who do high-end dungeons, people who don't do any instance except what's in MSQ and then go nuts with glamour/crafting, etc... And so far everyone seems mostly happy about the patch notes with just a few things here and there they don't like (My gripe is that the command mission additions are level 42/50/50, and I don't think it needed 2 50 dungeons added. One of those should instead have been cutter's cry or Qarn to fill the gap in betwen 32 and 41, and the other 50 should have been a 51-59 dungeon, but that's a gripe that's hardly unsub-worthy)

**Sakuraluna** · 01-28-2018 07:05 AM

As far as inventory space, this isn't 3.0 where we were given an entire expansion with absolutely no integrated inventory increases With the excuse of console limitations, then given a boatload of paid retainers through mogstation. From my understanding, we're gaining 200 glamour slots along with the ability to store several full glamour sets in the armoire, the ability to stack just under a thousand items in a single inventory slot, and an alternate storage altogether alongside one paid retainer. At least this time we have an option outside of 'pull out your credit card if you want to upgrade your inventory' or 'don't upgrade your inventory at all if you don't want to pay more per month for it.'

Not that it made any difference at the time, but I boycotted the extra retainers throughout 3.x due to feeling a bit cheated. Just knowing that there's an attempt to better the inventory situation in game makes me more likely to buy extra retainers in the future as needed because as long as I'm getting something in my base subscription, I don't feel like it's a pure money grab. No reason to complain this time around. Certainly no reason to unsubscribe. But that's just me.

**Emstidor** · 01-28-2018 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by Claviusnex

I don't consider it hoarding but I fill up most of my Retainer space with crafting materials. With the way new recipes continue to use items lower than they are you never know what you will need. Then there are the mildewed, moldy, etc dungeon drops that can make some money with old materials as well. So it comes down to a question of how do I want to use my time? Do I want to go out every time to gather what I need or cache extra materials in my Retainer. I think a lot of us rather gather a lot and store it rather than decide what we will craft then obtain the materials.

This was me up until a few months ago, but honestly? If you look through your retainer's inventory and check the prices on everything you're hoarding, you'll find a ton of them are less than 500gil for an item you haven't even used since Heavensward. Once I realized this I went on a massive sell-off of my cheap materials, and the valuable stuff honestly didn't even fill a single retainer.

I can't speak for everyone, but I honestly suggest doing some spring cleaning of your crafting mats if you haven't, I found it extremely liberating.

**Thayos** · 01-28-2018 08:52 AM

If Eureka is as bad as Diadem or as ultimately useless as PoTD, then I might leave until the next expansion.

**worldofneil** · 01-28-2018 08:56 AM

Definitely not unsubbing my two accounts. Already made preparations for 9th retainer for each! (wish we could reorder them, but we can't so I had to reset one so the jobs will be in order...)

Not complaints here over the 200 glamour space limit. That's 200 more than I have now and I honestly don't think I have anywhere near that so not worried about putting things into it that, especially crafted one where (if it really came down to it) I could just make again.

**Kazgrel** · 01-28-2018 09:00 AM

OP is proof that when devs give an inch on something, players will cry that it wasn't a mile.

- PLD nerf is virtually negligible
- WAR changes...well, so much for WAR never changes

- Items stacking to 999 totally won't help with inventory space...oh wait
- Glam system is just the start; similar systems in WoW have taken 5-6 years to get to where they are now (and you can't even dye gear in that game at all still)

Unsubbing hasn't even crossed my mind.

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