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Thread: Healer DPS

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    Healer DPS

    Can we PLEASE get more interesting healer dps rotations in 5.0?

    For AST at least you literally use Combust and then Malefic spam. I'm not usre how much more can be added to the healing kits at this point anyway.... so please improve the dps side of things.
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    I don't know, then people might complain it's hard, and look what just happened to war with those complaints...
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    I'm not asking for hard, just more interesting.
    Healers are also a different beast than tanks. We only dps on our healing downtime.
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    I mean, I don't personally feel healer DPS rotations need to be more complex than they already are. There's more to DPS even as an AST than just Combust/Malefic spam if you figure in the occasional Lord or Earthly Star (then you have time that other healers could spend doing damage or healing taken up with card management). Scholar seems sufficiently "complex" even with the loss of a DoT and WHM's cooldown management added in also adds a layer of complexity beyond Aeros + Stone spam.

    Ultimately, we're healers. Doing DPS is good for the party, but we don't need to have full on DPS rotations along with healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Ultimately, we're healers. Doing DPS is good for the party, but we don't need to have full on DPS rotations along with healing.
    I sincerely doubt anyone is asking for a full DPS rotation. That's leaping to extremes. What I would like is to press more than Malefic III half the time because let's face it, you'll spend vastly more time DPSing than healing in this game.
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    Honestly, I think if AST went back to the HW state of having two DoTs to maintain, it would go a long way to making it less mind numbing to play in low healing required content. Honestly, despite loving the job a lot, I tend to shy away from it in dungeons because I often find myself bored when I'm dps-ing more than healing.
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    Why are you doing this ? The other thread was just about to die and I had to become the most annoying person on all the internet to achieve that.

    Does this place have no respect for a honest person's work ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyriah View Post
    Why are you doing this ? The other thread was just about to die and I had to become the most annoying person on all the internet to achieve that.

    Does this place have no respect for a honest person's work ?
    I dont see the harm in wanting a more entertaining dps rotation. I'm not asking for higher potency, just better gameplay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyriah View Post
    Why are you doing this ? The other thread was just about to die and I had to become the most annoying person on all the internet to achieve that.

    Does this place have no respect for a honest person's work ?
    But this isn't about the morals/semantics surrounding whether healers should/could/are encouraged to dps it's just a thread asking for more engaging healer dps as it exists now. I can't lie though I agree with the rest of your post and it made me laugh so thank you for that.

    Edit: I like your hat. I almost didn't recognize you!

    I'm all for it at this point. I too don't play AST in anything because of how mind-numbing it can be. Not only does WHM have two dots but they don't have the same duration so they don't line upfor refreshing very well.

    I'd be all for a little more complexity here. Also, even though we won't ever see it, integration between healing and dps would be great. Even something simple like a Cure II cast directly after a Stone spell leaves behind a small shield or something.
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    Last edited by MoroMurasaki; 01-27-2018 at 04:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyriah View Post
    Why are you doing this ? The other thread was just about to die and I had to become the most annoying person on all the internet to achieve that.

    Does this place have no respect for a honest person's work ?
    +1 for honesty, self awareness, and self deprivating humour.

    On topic: it might make dpsing as a healer less boring, but it would further the gap between healers who dps and those who don't. We already have people who don't DPS ever or often on healers for any number of reasons, and rotations won't fix that. It'll just make the disparity between the two groups even more apparent.
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