Tank Balance

[Kalocin]

I think there needs to be a good discussion in regards to tank balance, and not just with tanks.

There have been many threads, many suggestions and discussions that have largely gone ignored. It's been so bad that we've got Dark Knights becoming a meme, and Warriors now getting thrown around like a ragdoll not just in balance but the base mechanics of the job itself.

Tanks know what the tanks want for balance, how does the general community feel about them. What would you like more for us, from us?

In addition, there doesn't seem to be a good direction or investment as to where the development team wants tanks to go which is inherently confusing.

Healers and DPS seem to have gotten a lot of love, but for tanks, I gotta say:

Oh no baby, what you doin??

[Corue]

DRK seriously needs either a massive overhaul in utility or a large DPS buff. They're seriously lacking in both at the moment.

Paladin gets two raid-wide shields and even Warrior gets one.
DRK just gets a single-target shield that comes out of their own MP while the other tanks' shields are both raid-wide and don't require any MP.

[Sekkei]

Definitely this. There's been lots of times when on DRK and shit is about to hit the fan with an incoming mechanic fail/borderline going to put us near death that makes me wish I could. One alliance sand ball during Hashmal about to explode? Eeny meeny miney moe, catch any job that can raise by the toe and pray that sole one lives

[AxlStream]

DRK had and has issues still but now SE went and messed with WAR in a way that nobody asked for.

[Rasikko]

DRK had and has issues still but now SE went and messed with WAR in a way that nobody asked for.

One guy asked for it! It was too hard to play.:P

Oh shoot. I have a comment to delete on another thread.

Berserk gets its name changed 'upgraded' to Inner Release.

[Zeonsilt]

DRK had and has issues still but now SE went and messed with WAR in a way that nobody asked for.

This reminds me of awful Rival Wings changes, that nobody asked for.
Developers is really out of touch with community, or maybe it's because of JP community.

(Afaik they only listen to JP community feedback, nobody translate for them from english/etc & they don't bother with that in general, unless it's a Fan Fest)

[Nedkel]

I really dont want to be that guy, but hey.
Welcome in 2018 patch 4.2, enjoy 1 hours long queue times, because SE is so incompetent in balancing their crucial for gameplay classes that they drive community off playing them.
They only had one job, buff the damn DRK.

[Awful]

The problem was everyone was expecting a huge change for a lot of classes (Monk, Blm, Drk) but we got things we didn't want instead which is War changes, random Pld Potency drops, and very minuscule, but welcome Drk changes, sadly it's just not enough. We're coming up to the next raid tier and nothings really changed, Plds still top dog with War being the defacto OT with Drk still lagging behind so really this big patch is warranting some really strange and questionable design choices.

Instead of nerfing Pld and changing and tweaking War every patch they should have just brought up Drk, buffed it so it could compete with War and Pld while being able to mix and match raid comps it's honestly baffling as a tank main that it's come to the point where the direction of tank balance is just getting worse and worse when were promised in live letters that tank balance is one of the important issues.

They should have just kept HW Drk + added it with TBN with it's own centric abilities that it got in HW (Reprisal, Scourge, Dark Passenger useful, Dark Dance, Low Blow procs) with some potency tweaks, nothing drastic. War should keep it the way it is now as it's great the way it was after the SiO change, give them Bloodbath back + keep Beserk, Pld is fine as it's got everything it's going for and more.

[VanilleFang]

DRK is a mess. There's a reason I dropped it and decided to level PLD instead when SB hit, and this patch didn't help at all.

DRK is a joke at this point, and I have no idea what the balancing team is thinking.

But hey, at least they finally got healers balanced after like 4 years. So dont worry, just a couple more years and tanks should be balanced too! >_>

[Derio]

Hoping these preliminary notes are missing alot of DRK info