Thread: 4.2 changes

Originally Posted by Divinemights

no company will reverse back to old system just because of a small portion of community do not like the changes

3.0 BRD > 4.0 BRD

And if gutting jobs and force fitting them into lesser versions of themselves (and this is AFTER already reducing/removing skills) was meant to close the skill gap, that was a colossal failure. You don't have to be a good healer to heal well if your potencies are higher and cast/recast is shorter than the rest. Melees without cc are at a huge loss right now, and tanks are just weak melee with high HP and cc. And despite this, anything that originally made a skilled player good, still makes them better than most, just with 9 buttons to do it with now.

And let's PLEASE stop using the tired, flawed logic that "FF14 is a PvE-based game". It wasn't a housing or glamours game at first either and yet those are prevalent features of the game as well now. The 3.x system had skills - from the start - that were perfect and very effective in PvP, far more than what we have now. Call it fluke or foresight, but many of those "useless" skills in PvE reigned supreme in PvP. Can't just be a coincidence.

Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

3.0 BRD > 4.0 BRD
And let's PLEASE stop using the tired, flawed logic that "FF14 is a PvE-based game".

No matter how hard you are crusading, ff14 is nevertheless still a hevily PvE based mmorpg, PvP is just an end game option. When PvE and PvP actions still in a mixed bag. PvP will always lost in the power struggle.

The decision to separate PvE and PvP is a correct decision. You may complain it is oversimplified, but it doesn't mean old system is perfect. It had problems of its own where PvE actions always creating balancing issue.

I am perfectly aware about how some skills are supreme in PvP but useless in PvE. It is exactly where the problem is. Takes Ninja job trait for example, Ninja takes 50% reduction in falling damage. I do miss the fun of baiting bunch of people to jump off cliff with me then dance on their corposes. I enjoy the fun but I do see its problem and frustrations caused to other. No, old system is not perfect

Originally Posted by Divinemights

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How would you feel if PvE went down to 9 buttons? You may say it doesn't correlate but let me spell it out. For people like ThirdChild and myself, PvP is our endgame. Yes this is a PvE centric game but they enabled PvP to cater to those who wanted it and so it is also a PvP game. Now they just neutered that player base which we are apart of. There are so many other things that they could have done and saying PvE skills didn't translate to PvP well SE had already figured that out which is why some abilities acted differently in PvP. They could have just easily changed the Ninja trait to reduce fall damage in PvE only without taking the neuter stick to the entire system.

Originally Posted by Wintersandman

How would you feel if PvE went down to 9 buttons? You may say it doesn't correlate but let me spell it out..

I dont care about how many buttons, it was never the point. What I am insisting on is that PvE and PvP actions need to be separate, as long as this is not changed, by all mean reverse back to how many buttons you like. I dont need this auto combo mechanic at all if I can play Ninja in 3.0 in which it required more complicated control to shorter CD requirement to output burst.

Originally Posted by Divinemights

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I appreciate the clarification.

Darn pld is sick just how lol i did 160k healing my healer wasnt healing at all...anyway pld is sick and i like it