The Castrum Meridianum/Praetorium Change

[Metalwrath]

This change was always going to eventually come down the line.The amount of threads being made over new players experience being ruined is clear evidence of it.
I agree that its not the best way to go about it.
You can blame the toxic players who rushed through with no regard for the people doing it the first time.There's a difference between politely asking someone or explaining they can watch cutscenes after as opposed to zerging though leaving the new player confused as to whats going on.
I know ill still help new players as will others.I dont see it be an issue to be honest,The only difference we will see a lot more of it up in party finder and being done by fc's.
There's a bit of an exageration as to how much roulettes are needed here.

[Enla]

This change was always going to eventually come down the line.The amount of threads being made over new players experience being ruined is clear evidence of it.
I agree that its not the best way to go about it.
You can blame the toxic players who rushed through with no regard for the people doing it the first time.There's a difference between politely asking someone or explaining they can watch cutscenes after as opposed to zerging though leaving the new player confused as to whats going on.
I know ill still help new players as will others.I dont see it be an issue to be honest,The only difference we will see a lot more of it up in party finder and being done by fc's.
There's a bit of an exageration as to how much roulettes are needed here.

To be fair though newbies have had alternative ways to get these instances done for awhile now. Asking one's FC for help being the foremost help like I ended up doing, or outright just making a cross world PF. I can /guarantee/ those PF's fill up because there's always people in this game who want to lend a helping hand and don't mind killing two hours to do it. Likewise in all my time running these instances I've never had a newbie speak up asking to watch the cutscenes. Whether that's through shyness or resignation is unclear, but I don't think people zerging through the content to their detriment was near as prevalent as some people were making it out to be.

Now we're right back to where we were before the MSQ Roulette was even implemented. A slog fest where most of the players who would have run it no longer have the incentive to do so, and where the average queue times are going to be nigh impossible to surmount. Which, is inevitably going to push newbies to ask their FC or put up a PF request. The same exact thing that would have worked in the first place. There's no winning here. Ultimately SE needs to make these two dungeons solo instances with randomized NPC's or leave well enough alone. Their AI has improved since ARR, so it should be more than doable. Because I can say right now if the queue times go back to how they were pre-roulette, /especially/ for DPS, it's going to turn into a nightmare. Back when I had to do it during 2.3-2.4 it was an average of fifty minutes for /healers/. I can't imagine what it was for DPS.

[MPNZ]

The cutscenes are basically 30 minutes long, so it's not really hard to see why they would just leave them behind and continue running the dungeon without them. The changes will most likely just cause player ques to become really long.

It would be better to redo them in a similar way as Alexander, but make sure to pad it out with new mechanics and rebalanced enemies and bosses,and maybe using dungeon mechanics from previous bosses too.

[Odstarva]

Fun, I wonder how many of the people being vocal -actually- even do main story roulette?
Give me a break, whine whine whine...

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Whining about people whining isn't much better, of course.

The bigger picture is that, while there are better ways to go about this, SE decided to not just go with a big, easy fix, they did so in a way that can hardly be considered a fair compromise for both. Nope. Everybody watches, no one skips.

It speaks of very ill problem solving methods, not unlike silencing everyone - the bad AND the good - in the Feast.

[Paladinleeds]

Fun, I wonder how many of the people being vocal -actually- even do main story roulette?
Give me a break, whine whine whine...

I do do main story roulette. I have a friend that drags me in whenever we're doing roulettes together. When I'm on my own, I prefer to avoid it though. It's a bit tiring.

or outright just making a cross world PF. I can /guarantee/ those PF's fill up because there's always people in this game who want to lend a helping hand and don't mind killing two hours to do it.

Yeah, I'll occasionally join a PF for it, if it states "No cutscene skipping" or similar, I know right off the bat they wanna watch cutscenes, or "For MSQ" I'll check with them if they wanna watch cutscenes. I don't mind chucking in a couple of hours but with the roulette, most people just wanna bumrush it. Heck, I'd even be OK with doing it min ilvl synced, if anyone wants that challenge.

[Fredco191]

[R.I.P. Duty Roulette: Main Scenario]

You may or may not be missed.

[Laerune]

This change will only hurt the players who want to do MSQ roulette for the experience bonus and newcomers who are forced to finish it to progress the storyline. 80 more Poetic will not result in bringing the players back, one can simply do another dungeon and take less then 20 minutes to get the poetic.

Unless they add more incentives, pets, mounts, the latest tomes etc. I just can not see why anyone (unless they are helping someone) would want to spend waiting 30-45 min on cutscene alone (assuming someone is not a slow reader) + the extra time needed to kill the mobs. As for me, I used to do MSQ, because I queued with a friend who needed it for exp, but with this change, I wont be entering anymore, the rewards are not worth 30-45 minutes of waiting for someone.

[SourDragonfly]

I could see it work if they do buff the reward to something ridiculous like triple or quadruple. Or they could also make it so the new changes are only in effect if there's newbie in party.

Worst case vets just stop queuing for msq roulette and all the newbies can group together to beat it.

[SilverObi]

This is my own perspective so feel free to refute it, but do people past 60 really still use the MSQ roulette for appreciable exp? A level appropriate dungeon awards more exp for equal or less time spent doesn't it? Again this is just me asking, cause I find the dungeons a much better use of time. If someone has the math on it, I'll gladly accept the numbers saying one way or the other.

Also this will hurt the newbies that don't know how or care to communicate with a FC or LS for help. Or know how PF works. But with the many ways to get help or easy clears for older content nowadays, maybe this won't be so much damaging to newer players as it is to those who still use MSQ for the exp bonus?