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    Player
    Ametrine's Avatar
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    You know what really sucks is I've just carried newbie players through it unsync on my level 70 jobs, giving them time to watch CS and just burning everything at a pace so that they can see the whole dungeon.

    All because of the fact newbies, even if told they can watch CS, get throttled but the CS's spamming them and end up left behind in these confusing dungeons while the experienced players keep going.

    It's such a massive, climactic moment in MSQ that's forever janked by mid dungeon cutscenes.
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    GetFoesReqd's Avatar
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    X'rho Haku
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    Zalera
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    Archer Lv 54
    I've seen the suggestion multiple times that they be retooled into a solo instance like the others, rather than a dungeon. That would be...a lot of work, but they did kinda get themselves backed into this corner. That said, if they did this, one of the positives would be that once you did these, you wouldn't have to do them again, and it would free up the load on the dungeon servers a bit with people running them less. I couldn't even guess how big a difference, if any, it would make, I assume not a lot, but at least it's something nice. Something aside from all the obvious benefits I mean. I'm not holding my breath of course, but regardless, forced cutscenes, when there are something like 15 - 20 of them in the dungeon, some just seconds apart, is not the answer.
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    Aster_E's Avatar
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    Aster Enelysion
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 70
    It's been my experience, generally, that new players are told to kick back and enjoy the cutscenes. What happened to that?

    I will say, though, that this one change alone is probably almost akin to the story of Rome dousing Carthage with salt. Rather than people being reasonable and fixing any errors or conflict, Team Yoshi basically made MS Roulette barren, and the flow of new players into relevant content rather dreary unless you're a newbie that buys the story jump.

    *le gasp* Could that be another reason behind their decision to do things this way? Could this be some elaborate ploy to make MORE new people spend money on jump ptions? (Gods I hope not, that would be stupid)
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    Mahri's Avatar
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    Maral Malaguld
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Anyone who quits running this roulette as a result of these changes is someone who should have quit running it a very long time ago.

    That is all.
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahri View Post
    Anyone who quits running this roulette as a result of these changes is someone who should have quit running it a very long time ago.

    That is all.
    Not necessarily. Many people did it for quick poetics and EXP. I would hazard a guess speed runners make up the overwhelming majority of people who queue. With the quickness eliminated, they no longer have any incentive to ever touch it again.
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahri View Post
    Anyone who quits running this roulette as a result of these changes is someone who should have quit running it a very long time ago.

    That is all.
    I'm not running it anymore. It was bad enough having to wait 30 minutes for the queue to pop with a dps. I'm not going to spend all that time in the actual duty while people watch a half hour of cutscenes. It was tolerable before, it certainly is a waste of time now. It's much easier to simply queue for a dungeon at my level for the experience.
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    Zephera's Avatar
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    Zephera Mortera
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahri View Post
    Anyone who quits running this roulette as a result of these changes is someone who should have quit running it a very long time ago.

    That is all.
    Something tells me you won't be running it either.
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    Crushing Fatigue
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Mahri View Post
    Anyone who quits running this roulette as a result of these changes is someone who should have quit running it a very long time ago.

    That is all.
    Because making the queues harder for newbies is a good thing. Which is exactly what's going to happen right now.

    I also feel a lot of you are, again, ignoring the newbies who don't /want/ to sit through cutscene hell. Where is their recourse? Before the ones who did could put up a PF or run with guildmates if they wanted to experience the full scenario and the ones who didn't were in and out in thirty minutes for both dungeons. Now both are stuck with a two hour slog fest that's going to be even worse with the queue times bloating due to a lack of people wanting to run it. Remember how it was back when MSQ roulette wasn't a thing? I do. I was a newbie back then and the fifty minute queues haunted me before I begged my FC for help.
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    Lunafreya's Avatar
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    Ellia Lombardia
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    This is a really dumb change. Haha, what were they thinking?
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    Axl Stream
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Press F to pay respects to the Main Scenario roulette.
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