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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Please read carefully, guys.

    I don't like this either. I was, however, sarcastically mimicking some of the comments made when they decided the best way to deal with a few nasty players in the Feast was to prevent anyone from saying anything. This change parallels it. People - not everyone - but people would rush and leave new guys behind, ruining the experience for them. No, it's not fair, and sure they could've run it with their FC, or watched cutscenes later in an inn, or sure, the ones that weren't there for the first time could be nice and wait, but no. SE decided "everyone waits for the new guy".

    Doesn't bother me much as I always did wait for them anyways (if only so they know where to go), and I don't go out of my way to run MSQ roulette as is. But I think this was just as bad a change as the Feast chat restriction. It was important however to point out the similarity.
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    Honestly, I personally think it always has been SE the one at fault with this. Both Castrum and Prae have a terrible design, putting so many CS in an 8-man instance. You can't blame players for rushing it and leaving players behind, as it didn't affect the outcome since there's no need for 8 people on any of these encounters. Bad design is bad.
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    Give it a patch. The massive reduced people queue for MSQ roulette will eventually make them revert, after the complaint threads start about new players not being able to advance the story due to not finding groups or insane queue times of several hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom View Post
    The massive reduced people queue for MSQ roulette will eventually make them revert, after the complaint threads start about new players not being able to advance the story due to not finding groups or insane queue times of several hours.
    I hope you're right. I want you to be right, believe me. but. . . (Look at the date, number of pages, and the current state of the content.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom View Post
    Give it a patch. The massive reduced people queue for MSQ roulette will eventually make them revert [...]
    This pretty much.

    Though I'd say give them a couple patches - Knowing them, they'll first try to increase the rewards further or make a special achievement for it or something. It's a recurring theme in their design, bad design and decisions get compensated with rewards.
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    I'll repeat what I said from a similar thread:

    While I appreciate the intent of the cutscenes in CM and Prae not being skippable for in the event of a new person in the party, the rewards aren't really worth it in the long run.

    I think if the gil reward in the daily bonus and Adventurer in Need bonus is highly substantial enough, I'll give it a try more often to help the newbies in need. (I'll take some extra gil for glams and housing stuff.)

    I mean ARF and the 24-man raids give quite a bit of poetics in less than 30 minutes, even when there are no new people there.
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    Player Miles_Maelstrom's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu View Post
    I'll repeat what I said from a similar thread:

    While I appreciate the intent of the cutscenes in CM and Prae not being skippable for in the event of a new person in the party, the rewards aren't really worth it in the long run.

    I think if the gil reward in the daily bonus and Adventurer in Need bonus is highly substantial enough, I'll give it a try more often to help the newbies in need.

    I mean ARF and the 24-man raids give quite a bit of poetics in less than 30 minutes, even when there are no new people there.
    The problem this will see a big drop. I might still do MSQ roulette, but my priorities will change.

    Right now when working though roulettes I go: Alliance>MSQ>Leveling>50/60>Trial

    After Tuesday: Alliance>Leveling>50/60>Trial>MSQ

    Meaning, I won't get to it very often. So even those that aren't completely staying out of it we'll see a drastic drop in people doing MSQ Roulette.
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    Kallistra Noblesse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom View Post
    Give it a patch. The massive reduced people queue for MSQ roulette will eventually make them revert, after the complaint threads start about new players not being able to advance the story due to not finding groups or insane queue times of several hours.
    This will likely be the cause. If I remember correctly, they added the MS Roulette because the queues for it were so bad for new players because they weren't in any other roulette. I see the queues slowing down significantly and I think it's quite possible they'll revert the change sooner or later.

    On the bright side, those doing the Mentor Roulette can look forward to these two popping more often now. :^)
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    Just cancelled my sub over this. Inexcusably moronic. No justification for this whatsoever. If you wanted to watch the cutscenes, you could do that already, just let the other people clear it. This and 2.1-2.5 are huge bottlenecks in the game already. Making this old trash longer is the opposite of what they should be doing. Everyone saying this will be a nearly insurmountable obstacle in the MSQ now is completely right and it's not hyperbole. People will be sitting in queue for hours and then just log off out of frustration. Unbelievably stupid. Completely ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainOhare View Post
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    LOL I hope this was just a parody comment.
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