Thread: 4.2 healer adjustments

I agree with Tridus. The DB change is great but ignoring Secret of the Lily II is mind boggling.

At least WHMs now have a reliable shield.

Originally Posted by VanilleFang

I agree with Tridus. The DB change is great but ignoring Secret of the Lily II is mind boggling.

At least WHMs now have a reliable shield.

Yeah, Secret of the Lily II really is dumb as it is. Hopefully we will get something there in the near future.

Originally Posted by Yuyuka3

Yeah, Secret of the Lily II really is dumb as it is. Hopefully we will get something there in the near future.

Who thought putting a minor recast time reduction behind two instances of RNG was a good idea? =_=

If I get a crit on my Cure/II spell I have a 20% chance to reduce my Assize/Asylum recast by 5 seconds! Look forward to it fam!

DB change is awesome news. Shield on demand without having to waste MP on cures is going to be welcome. Though this does make the Lily system even more useless than it already is. AST changes are fine. Extra 10s buff to Spear is nice. Still leveling SCH, but changes to Excog seems nice. Looking forward to playing it at 70. Icing on the cake

Still can't generate lilies outside of worthless cures, Cdr is still boring and useless with how cooldowns are planned, and we still have a terrible trait. At least DB was changed.

I think it's just an artifact of how unnecessary and tacked on Lillies are, and seeing their relevance getting chipped away more and more.

As for Excog, yep. That's pretty much exactly what we've been asking for.

I'm definitely happy with the healer changes over all.

I especially love the change to Excogitation. I can be more liberal with it's use. Slap an Adlo on the tank and an Excog and not have to worry about healing them while I DPS my little heart out. XD

I don't tend to play the other healers as often, but the few times I have done end game WHM content it seems like I usually have the Lily to spare to use Divine Benison at my leisure, but I imagine that if I did play it more I would have a great appreciation for how useful the skill not being tied to Lilies could be. Astrologian I play a bit more frequently than WHM so I'm fairly excited for those changes as well. Longer Crit is okay in my book. Earthly Star is a pure QoL check that I personally don't find necessary, but nothing wrong with making it easier to use for those that would appreciate it.

Honestly, at this point I'd be very surprised if Lilies don't receive HEAVY adjustments or flat out get replaced come next expansion (the devs aren't going to make major mechanical changes before then). Lilies are the one "class defining mechanic" that basically do nothing to...you know...define the play style of the class at it's getting more silly as time goes on.

With excog: I agree that for high end content this change is probably not necessary if you plan the use of the ability right. That said, it will be nice for more casual content likes dungeons if you get like a panic-y PLD who clemency spams for hear of dropping below 50% or tanks doing smaller, less damaging pulls.

The time upgrade to Spear was nice. It's nice to have all the damage buffs on the same duration now. And the AoE placement marker for Earthly Star is a welcome improvement. Not really sure why it wasn't this way before considering all the other healer placed mechanics display their true range.

Still hoping they eventually take a look at role skills. The healer role skills never feel like you're making trade offs between your choices....you're just picking whatever counters the mechanics of the given fight (Pick Esuna for fight with cleanses, pick Surecast for a fight with noteworthy knock backs, etc). It would be nice if the choices were at least not so obvious.