Thread: 4.2 healer adjustments

Originally Posted by Yuyuka3

What I wonder now is. Is it completely decoupled from the Lily-system, or will it still blow them uselessly? Or does it function like any other oGC now, with a CD reduction depending on how many Lilies you got? That would be sweet. Just hope they don't stealth-Nerf it in some way...

DB already had the CD reduction depending on lilies, same as the other abilities. It still has that. Only change is that you can now use it with zero lilies.

Originally Posted by Yuyuka3

Did I miss a patch note? Oo
Because last I knew, DB just wasted all your Lilies without return. That's why everyone always wanted SE to change it so it only takes one. I also never noticed it being back up earlier when cast with three Lilies. Mind posting your source, Please?

Not at all. Here's a screenshot of Secret of the Lily's tooltip, taken just now (so in 4.1). Note that DB is included explicitly in the cooldown reduction effect.



The reason we wanted it changed is because you can use the others with 0 lilies and it didn't matter, so you could do DB then Tetra. But if you do it the other way around (Tetra then DB), it wouldn't work. This change is nice because it removes that nuisance, but if you do have lilies, you get DB back faster, which is okay with me.

Originally Posted by EaMett

Or how to make lilies even more pointless. I hope they review those at some point.

Judging from how the other jobs have been treated, a relatively major mechanics overhaul won't be considered for a routine content patch but would have to wait till the next expansion.

I do find it interesting how much of this discussion is centering around lillies with a side of PI. Not that I disagree with most of what's said but... eh, the job is strong enough on its own as long as healing requirements are high, so I've been happy enough to mostly ignore lillies and treat PI as a little extra bonus healing.

Originally Posted by Tridus

Or the MSQ roulette mess. We're a little bastion of tranquility.

Jesus, that's true. I won't lie, that change does perplex me, but we'll see how it plays out... hopefully any newbie that gets into the game has at least a friend that can help them get through that unsynced

Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

Judging from how the other jobs have been treated, a relatively major mechanics overhaul won't be considered for a routine content patch but would have to wait till the next expansion.

I wouldn't be so sure about this. Just look at the rework WAR got on this patch. You can argue it's a bunch of potency changes and all, but the change to its playstyle and huge shift in how its buffs and CDs work is definitely huge. There might still be some hope that Secret of the Lilly I and II get reworked into at least having a different effect.