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  1. #21
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    Cabalabob's Avatar
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I think retainers are probably the closest thing to pay to win there is in ffxiv and by adding MORE paid ones without adding any more free ones they are not helping their case...

    I’m not gonna hold paid retainers against them, but in a subscription game it should at least be balanced, like 4 free and 4 paid, not 2 free and 7 paid, that’s EA levels of greedy.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 01-27-2018 at 04:23 AM.
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    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

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    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

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    Dustytome's Avatar
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    Fox Briarthorn
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    Sargatanas
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    Culinarian Lv 100
    So $168/year for what's probably less than 5mb of space if you have all 7 additional retainers?
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  3. #23
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Solarra View Post
    I have one paid at the moment and I'm sending all of them out on ventures and using them to hold glamours, crafting mats, fishing bait etc.
    Since the Dresser basically destroys items (gear cannot be retrieved) and gear in there cannot be used to glam your squad, I'm going to be very careful what I put in there.
    I know we have got some extra storage this patch, but for me an extra free retainer would be more valuable than the choco-bag.
    I feel the same. For now the only glamour I plan to put in the Dresser are things I can craft or repurchase easily. Other stuff will still go to my Retainer or sit in my Armory.
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  4. #24
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Flan Vongola
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Its really hopeless. They add with every expansion 100+, maybe even more (cant even keep track cause its getting more and more) new materials which can be gathered, crafted and used. And then they cry that they dont have the server requirements to expand inventory slots/bags/free retainers.
    I dont know what they expect from us? How long do we have to pay for extra rentainers? Its getting slowly ridiculous.
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  5. #25
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Its really hopeless. They add with every expansion 100+, maybe even more (cant even keep track cause its getting more and more) new materials which can be gathered, crafted and used. And then they cry that they dont have the server requirements to expand inventory slots/bags/free retainers.
    I dont know what they expect from us? How long do we have to pay for extra rentainers? Its getting slowly ridiculous.
    That wouldn't be so bad if they didn't keep using old materials in the new item recipes.
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  6. #26
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    Brizzyne Windsong
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    Exodus
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    Bard Lv 80
    We need more free retainers not more paid ones. Each expansion adds a lot of new materials for crafting plus all the new glamour. We really need at least one new free retainer for each expansion. We also need a true glamour log. The glamour dresser is not the right solution since it has a hard limit of 200 items and you have to destroy items if you later decide you want different items in it.
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  7. #27
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    Joe Ultima
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    Coeurl
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    Rogue Lv 70
    I already pay for 6 additional retainers per month, and I've been saying for a long time now that we should get a 3rd free retainer, 1 per expansion. While it is nice we finally get another retainer, having to pay for 7 of them when SE keeps throwing new items and gear at us is really not fair, even if it is only an extra $2 per month.
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  8. #28
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    Aster Enelysion
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 70
    It really does come down to Squeenix making money off of this as much as possible, and people continuing to pay into it. It would be nice if we got a third free retainer like (I thought) was hinted pre-Heavensward release, before it turned out we were being allowed to buy yet another retainer. Since then I have been working my arse off in balancing my glamours and my crafting/gathering mats, as well as Relic-based items when I was working on so many animas.

    Things were only getting harder as time went on, so MAYBE the Glam Dresser will help. Really what would help is a third free retainer, but, again, SE seeks only to make as much money as possible from this game.
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  9. #29
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    X'rho Haku
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    Zalera
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    Archer Lv 54
    The answer seems simple to me: Gil. Everyone has tons of gil they aren't using by the time they need extra retainers, let us hire them for a month (same as optional service) for gil. After all, that's the currency a person in the game would want for their services. Of course, keep the option to pay real money, some people might prefer that, but for those of us who don't, let us drop some gil on it. I don't really know what a fair price might be but gil is pretty easy to get so, maybe 1M for a month for each beyond number 2 (though 3 or 4 would certainly be preferred.) Of course I know they wouldn't want to lose any revenue from this, but as I said, some people would likely still pay real money anyway, and the mog station is still a thing that exists. I know they'll never do this but it would certainly be my suggestion.
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  10. #30
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    A third free retainer would be nice for ventures and sale slots, but I don't really need the storage if I manage my items well. To be honest, with the addition of dresser and saddlebag and 999 item stacks, I could have my number of retainers reduced to zero and I'd be ok. Any glamors that can't go in the armoire will go in the dresser. Non-glam gear goes in armory chest. Other items in inventory and saddlebag. Glam prisms just got reduced down to a single type. Carbonised matter was already killed off. Furnishings were given a storeroom. They've been making some nice progress on item management systems.
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