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    Ainslie Tinley
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    I remember in Guild Wars every single person could skip the cutscene but it kept playing as long as even one person didn't skip it (and it showed how many persons clicked skip). But if everybody skipped it, it would stop for everybody. I think that would be a decent compromise too.
    Though what Felis proposes is the best solution imho.
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    I'm very disappointed with the decision they made, for multiple reasons. They honestly could have just gated the fights until everyone was done watching/skipping the scenes or just made it a solo instance.

    As someone who has 16 characters (I know it's a ridiculous amount) 15 who have to do these two MSQ dungeons at some point, it makes me never want to bother with it. Each one takes 30-50 minutes (just estimating) and I have to do that 30 times if you count both?

    I could even see new players leaving after being faced with a dungeon with 30 minutes of cutscenes, probably after waiting a long time just to get in because no one will want to do it.

    Im hoping SE will change it back or do something to fix it, though I doubt they will.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaWildheart View Post

    As someone who has 16 characters (I know it's a ridiculous amount) 15 who have to do these two MSQ dungeons at some point, it makes me never want to bother with it. Each one takes 30-50 minutes (just estimating) and I have to do that 30 times if you count both?
    I see this point being brought up a lot. "I have # of characters that means I have to do this # of times". .. well yeah.
    I get it sounds like a long time, and ideally they'll remove the unskippable part from solo/unsynched queues, but for some perspective, it's maybe one night of gaming for ALL of it.
    Sure if you brought all of your 15 characters to these points at the same time.. and ran them through the MSQ at the same time it would add up. But is it so bad to do it one at a time? How much playtime have you spent in total? As a % of your total playtime, what part of it is that 2 hours for all 3 quests?

    YES you need the choice to do it by yourself and how you want, I agree there, but as it is now stating that "oh my goodness I have so many characters I have to push through it, it is going to take forever." is very odd considering you're willing to put in the hundreds of hours it'll take to do the rest of the quests and leveling.

    Maybe I should be posting this in "unpopular opinions" but it doesn't seem like this is all that compelling an argument, just a minor bump on your way to MSQ completion.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Nephthys Yamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlyssaWildheart View Post
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    This is becoming a tiresome excuse...yes you heard me... EXCUSE.

    Its pathetic....you're talking about 2 measly dungeons you only need to run ONCE....not twice...not thrice...ONCE.
    This argument is a waste of time. We/I don't care if you have multiple toons to and need to run things...that is your choice to bear...your burden to carry. You have to do everything over again anyway....and your throwing a damn fit over an extra 30 mins to an hour of time watching cut-scenes? Get over it..seriously.

    If your going to commit making an alt...your going to do the job regardless....stop using this as a convenient baseball bat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    This is becoming a tiresome excuse...yes you heard me... EXCUSE.

    Its pathetic....you're talking about 2 measly dungeons you only need to run ONCE....not twice...not thrice...ONCE.
    This argument is a waste of time. We/I don't care if you have multiple toons to and need to run things...that is your choice to bear...your burden to carry. You have to do everything over again anyway....and your throwing a damn fit over an extra 30 mins to an hour of time watching cut-scenes? Get over it..seriously.

    If your going to commit making an alt...your going to do the job regardless....stop using this as a convenient baseball bat.
    You white knighting a bad change what is pathetic

    The person said twice because there is 2 dungeons, 2 x 15=30 runs, and they do not want to do it, and it is a reasonable complaint. This game needs to be f more friendly to leveling alts in general.

    You know what? I know how turn it around. New players should be able deal with people wanting to speed run the dungeon because they do not want to sit and watch something for the 100th time. People could respect and let them watch the CS (and what I see happen most of the time without continuous bickering) while people that want to get in and get out do so.

    6 or 7 people speed running does not prevent 1 or 2 not to watch them. It is not like you need 8 people to clear it.
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 02-05-2018 at 04:34 PM.

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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    You white knighting a bad change what is pathetic

    The person said twice because there is 2 dungeons, 2 x 15=30 runs, and they do not want to do it, and it is a reasonable complaint. This game needs to be f more friendly to leveling alts in general.
    You not reading or paying attention is very foolish of you. I suggest you try again. I won't bother educating someone who won't pay attention to the nuances of the discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    You not reading or paying attention is very foolish of you. I suggest you try again. I won't bother educating someone who won't pay attention to the nuances of the discussion.
    I suggest to you to post without being insulting.

    I was trying to explain what they meant, trying to calm you down, and you just made the problem bigger. Telling me I do not pay attention when you are the one having that problem? OK!
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 02-05-2018 at 04:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    This is becoming a tiresome excuse...yes you heard me... EXCUSE.

    Its pathetic....you're talking about 2 measly dungeons you only need to run ONCE....not twice...not thrice...ONCE.
    This argument is a waste of time. We/I don't care if you have multiple toons to and need to run things...that is your choice to bear...your burden to carry. You have to do everything over again anyway....and your throwing a damn fit over an extra 30 mins to an hour of time watching cut-scenes? Get over it..seriously.

    If your going to commit making an alt...your going to do the job regardless....stop using this as a convenient baseball bat.
    Im not the pathetic one, I dont insult people on the forums just for opinions. Its not an excuse, but then again I dont have to justify myself to you.
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    Last edited by AlyssaWildheart; 02-05-2018 at 04:46 PM. Reason: spelling~

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    Make cutscenes unskippable. Increase reward to 200 useless tomes.



    Yeah, I'm... probably never running that one again.
    Not that I did in the first place, but really SE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakuro89 View Post
    Make cutscenes unskippable. Increase reward to 200 useless tomes.
    They are needed for Relics
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