Please Reconsider MSQ Changes

[Aylis]

The story is an important part of the ff14 experience, if you don't have time for a few cutscenes, don't queue a roulette: SE is giving a big bonus of EXP as a bait (or if you prefer "in exchange for your patience").

If it were just a few cut scenes, it wouldn't be an issue in the first place. The issue is its more like a few dozen cut scenes that last a very long time. Ones that now everyone is forced to watch over and over and over and over and over again. There's other content others may want to do during their play time and strong arming everyone into sitting through nearly an hour of cut scenes isn't very fun cause it becomes a time waster. I know story is a big thing for lots but how many times can you sit through the same cut scenes until they're memorized before you get sick and say "enough...I don't wanna do this anymore".

[Eli85]

New players are going to quit playing because they won't be able to get a queue in a reasonable time you mean.

Also, it's very rare I see any toxicity and I run MSQ roulette once a day. Aside from "hellos" most people are dead silent, newbies and veterans alike. Most veterans, while they do rush, tell the newbie to "relax and enjoy the cutscenes". It's not like the fights are impressive, they're over before they even begin.

Your anecdotal evidence aside, it's well documented that new players are told to skip cut scenes and "watch them in the inn" during these two dungeons. The devs have acknowledged this. It's why the change was made.

If queue times aren't reasonable, then I wouldn't be surprised to see MSQ and Leveling Roulettes merged.

Once again, only the community has themselves to blame for this.

[Fynlar]

The community takes the blame for this change. If players weren't so toxic to new players with "SKIP SKIP SKIP" S-E would not have had to make such a strong change like this.

Uhh, no. SE takes the blame for the changes SE makes.

Yes, this was a problem, but there were better solutions. If anything this is going to hurt the newbies, and the fact they did not foresee this is pretty much typical/expected of SE by now (but still no less disappointing). The roulette goers will just do other roulettes; they will barely be affected.

[Gumbercules]

They'll just get harassed to spam through the cutscenes instead most likely. So it'll still be a bad experience most likely. Heck, if you take the time to watch the cutscenes they'll probably vote kick you out to boot.

good point, i really shouldn't underestimate ppl.

[LaylaTsarra]

Personally, I am very glad this change was finally made. New players deserve to experience the story the way the developers intended.

You just don't get it do you. If no one queues for the duty how are the new people going to continue story? They did intend for them to finish story right? Frustration because a duty doesn't pop will turn them away pretty quick. I hope that's not the case but I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.

[BillyKaplan]

On the other hand FFXIV is a MMORPG: another big part of the gaming experience is playing with others.

You know what isn't 'playing with others'? Watching the equivalent of a short episode worth of cutscenes.

It may seem a good idea, but I feel alone, and I have less chances to socialize.

You have literally every other duty and trial and dungeon to do that. The loss of these two dungeons people just power through isn't what's going to make you friends in this game.

This could become a stepping stone for "completely soloing ffxiv".

Sure, if you're completely ignoring why these two instances are problematic. You don't get a half an hour's worth of cutscenes between Ifrit stages.

1.Provide gameplay advice for new adventurers and other players.
2.Be an exemplar for player etiquette.
3.Invite new adventurers to the Novice Network and answer their queries in the chat channel.

1 and 3 absolutely don't force you to run content. Your best case is #2 because insta-bailing is bad player etiquette but unless you can prove they bailed because of the dungeon and not some other pressing irl matter - and you won't be able to do so, unless they were dumb enough to say so in chat - you're all out of luck.

tl;dr this is the age old debate about Mentors. We don't owe anyone squat about what content we run. If we leave a roulette, we get penalized and that's our just desserts. Anything else is you wanting something SE never intended us to do

[jameseoakes]

Your anecdotal evidence aside, it's well documented that new players are told to skip cut scenes and "watch them in the inn" during these two dungeons. The devs have acknowledged this. It's why the change was made.

If queue times aren't reasonable, then I wouldn't be surprised to see MSQ and Leveling Roulettes merged.

Once again, only the community has themselves to blame for this.

And everyone will leave when they get Preatorium

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

You can cry how much u want u can stand on your head for days, they wont change it (only if the pvp pupolation will decrease so hard than only after that they will might bring back the old stuff like chat etc.). Its time to change game if u like PvP. lol
PVP was dead (for me) since they removed CS anyways.

Sure, now imagine all the PvPers upset with that change they never wanted or asked for, and have proven has done more harm than good go. Oh hey look, some people don't like the SMN changes, they can go too. Ah, and a lot of BLMs are pretty underwhelmed by their changes; there's other games with mage classes, so let them just go too. Hey, those new guys can't get queues for that MSQ duty with the unskippable cutscenes and can't progress! Well, too bad for them, if they don't like it, they can just go find something else to play.

^ Here you go, SE. Promising new candidate for your dev team.

[Lelila38]

If queue times aren't reasonable, then I wouldn't be surprised to see MSQ and Leveling Roulettes merged.

Funny thing is though, if you get one of those 2, in this case, it would still be faster to eat the 30 min penalty for leaving than to sit through the cutscenes.

[Zephera]

Once again, only the community has themselves to blame for this.

Okay, whatever. Point being the only people this hurts are the newbies. If none can get past this brick wall, the amount of players at endgame will dry up and the game will die. Sounds fantastic now doesn't it.