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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I also wouldn't consider going back to rework this a worthwhile investment of time vs working on new content everyone will enjoy. We've constantly been shown a limited resource pool for development being a thing with FFXIV, lets not sacrifice another instance or storyline to fix something that's easily ignorable and avoidable if you don't want to experience it more than once.
    I dunno, I'd really want to be able to recommend the game to new people without having to warn them about ARR's quality not being representative of the quality of the rest of the game.. (Not that that game needs an influx of player at the moment).
    Also, the contention around those 2 duty really dims what's essentially the capstone of ARR's story arc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardox View Post
    I dunno, I'd really want to be able to recommend the game to new people without having to warn them about ARR's quality not being representative of the quality of the rest of the game.. (Not that that game needs an influx of player at the moment).
    Also, the contention around those 2 duty really dims what's essentially the capstone of ARR's story arc
    ARR's big problem isn't those two MSQ though, their quality is fine and if you're at that part in the story it's actually interesting. Their implementation is just horrid for replay. When I warn people about anything when joining the game it's the desert of filler between ARR and Heavensward. THAT really could be lost or at least condensed with little to no impact on the story.

    So far when I've introduced people to the game it's not the MSQ gruesome twosome that they balk at , it's that nothing under 60 seems to be a challenge at all. If they spent anytime at all on reworking old content I'd want them to make ALL old duties more challenging by at least heavily scaling gear.
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    To those who liked the suggestion about enabling the duties for trust I've made a post for the live letter questions here I'll leave it here for those who wish to bump it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    ARR's big problem isn't those two MSQ though, their quality is fine and if you're at that part in the story it's actually interesting. Their implementation is just horrid for replay. When I warn people about anything when joining the game it's the desert of filler between ARR and Heavensward. THAT really could be lost or at least condensed with little to no impact on the story.
    Please do also tell them there is still a lot of important plot during that phase. It's not all tea leaves and smelly chocobos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    ARR's big problem isn't those two MSQ though, their quality is fine and if you're at that part in the story it's actually interesting. Their implementation is just horrid for replay. When I warn people about anything when joining the game it's the desert of filler between ARR and Heavensward. THAT really could be lost or at least condensed with little to no impact on the story.

    So far when I've introduced people to the game it's not the MSQ gruesome twosome that they balk at , it's that nothing under 60 seems to be a challenge at all. If they spent anytime at all on reworking old content I'd want them to make ALL old duties more challenging by at least heavily scaling gear.
    Fair..
    Maybe the fact I was dragged like a ragdoll during those 2 dungeons bias my opinion, I still believe the end of ARR lose luster from the poor experience you get from those dungeons..

    I acknowledge there's a lot of quests in between ARR ends and HW start and I see a lot of new players complain. Thought, on a very personal note, I don't remember the gap between them being so terrible (maybe I just enjoyed that part of the story more that the average (?))

    Now that I have read back my post, I don't even feel we have contradicting point: my original statement on the 2 MSQ dungeon applying to the last part of my post (sorry if it wasn't clear enough).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardox View Post
    Fair..
    Maybe the fact I was dragged like a ragdoll during those 2 dungeons bias my opinion, I still believe the end of ARR lose luster from the poor experience you get from those dungeons..

    I acknowledge there's a lot of quests in between ARR ends and HW start and I see a lot of new players complain. Thought, on a very personal note, I don't remember the gap between them being so terrible (maybe I just enjoyed that part of the story more that the average (?))
    Honestly neither did I, but I do acknowledge it's VERY long and tedious. The first time I did it I barely noticed since I was doing it as it was being released, subsequent runs I just skip all the text and cutscenes so it's just lots of teleporting.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardox View Post
    Now that I have read back my post, I don't even feel we have contradicting point: my original statement on the 2 MSQ dungeon applying to the last part of my post (sorry if it wasn't clear enough).
    Not contradicting, just slightly different views on the same problem. If you don't keep up with player complaints MSQ just kind of happens to you and then it's done. If you go look up guides and get exposed to the chatter though it could mar the experience somewhat.
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