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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizunoko View Post
    First, No one ever said the change was meant to please us and whether it was or not does not invalidate everyones opinions even if you do not agree with them.
    Second, we all pay monthly to play this game so what you call whining is only you trying to act high and mighty, as customers and subscribers every persons voice matters and has the right to critique the games quality (not one person in this thread whined,
    what i see is people voicing there opinions on something that matters to them simple as that. Calling it whining only makes yourself look more immature and biased. The least you could try to do is act mature and voice your opinion with a less biased no matter what outlook). All your doing by saying what you have said is aligning yourself with all the white knights who come to SE's back over everything.
    Third, if your going to come up with a counter argument at least think of something with more logic. I mean whether you agree with us or not, whether SE did this change to please us or not. None of that matters because the players have a voice and they have spoken. When it comes down to it a game is not a game without its players, and this threads sample size represents a large portion. It shows a good poll on how unpopular the choice SE made regarding this topic is. I don't have to back my argument up because all i have to do is point at basically 90% of the people in this thread who agree.
    I never said YOU were whining. I said people come here to do things: Comment, contribute and including whining. Don't take offense where none is given.
    So If I have a conflicting opinion to you: I'm a SE Groupie. Alright. Never any grey area here I guess. Show me where I think they've done no wrong?
    I'm not defending SE, I'm saying complaining the XP per minute has suffered and how much this change has impacted the playtime of everyone so badly and it should never have been done is selfish and silly.
    I can appreciate that text has very poor inflection conveyance and you think I'm being "mean". I'll never directly insult someone or "talk down" to someone intentionally unless they do me the courtesy first. This is how I talk in real life and it's how I write, I apologize if you think I'm trying to be haughty. I don't think I'm better than you or on the "right" side , there's just my side.

    I use plenty of logic. Like the logic that the actual game was polled to ask who uses the forums and the resulting numbers it showed were minuscule. I understand this doesn't count all the people who didn't know about the poll or didn't care but it used an actual sample from the playerbase and not some forum you have to look for and register to post on. Even this THREAD isn't a great example. What about all the people who won't touch it because they don't want to respond to people being hostile immediately? What about the people who don't care and didn't even click because they don't do the roulette?

    I will always be civil until you break civility with me.

    You of course should always voice your opinion but don't get agitated when people disagree.

    I think that who it was intended for matters a lot. If The concern that gets addressed is solved then that's a successful implementation, if people are affected negatively then they of course will say something but now we're having that discussion. The argument I'm hearing though is : This impinges on my leveling queue, change it back.
    So the discussion of who is impacted more negatively , more irreversibly, and what that does to their overall gaming experience becomes valid.
    I value the story experience of this game a lot and it's the reason I keep coming back. I can say the same for my friends whom I've discussed this particular issue with as well. Now of course if I want more people like myself (and be honest, who doesn't like to surround themselves with people like themselves , at least in interest and value) to play and I will speak up for something that supports those values. Story over grinding. That's my stake.
    I propose that the grinders losing one roulette is worth people enjoying the actual story and this was supported by the implementation. I have no illusions of this being because SE loves me or thinks my view is the "right" one. But I will argue for it since it encourages the type of player I want to see in the game to stay.
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    Last edited by Krotoan; 02-17-2018 at 02:08 PM.
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?