Please Reconsider MSQ Changes

[BillyKaplan]

None of them seem to be complaining about their first run though, just subsequent runs.

To be fair, that's still a playerbase who deserves to be heard and that's still content SE should want people to run. The fewer people with established characters running it, the worse it is for newer players, that's why the roulette was established in the first place. I agree with you about needing more time to see how this will really affect things, though I also agree with anyone who said we're likely to see a decline in participants.

[Krotoan]

To be fair, that's still a playerbase who deserves to be heard and that's still content SE should want people to run. The fewer people with established characters running it, the worse it is for newer players, that's why the roulette was established in the first place. I agree with you about needing more time to see how this will really affect things, though I also agree with anyone who said we're likely to see a decline in participants.

There will DEFINITELY be a decline. No doubt there. Subtract the speedrunners and the xp/tome crowd and you by all accounts have less players running it. Whether it falls to unmanageable levels is where the rub is. The original reason it was instated goes back to the pool that there was to draw from: individual servers. Now we have datacenter pools instead, this may be manageable now. As you've said though , time will tell.

They do deserve to be heard , as all players do. But when you have people complaining about something that was never really made for them, it just took advantage of them (this sounds bad I know but it seems to be what was done) it's kind of silly. BUT, there is the matter of the solo/unsynched runs having the limitations, which is dumb. That I'll argue was a really bad oversight or decision.

[BillyKaplan]

But when you have people complaining about something that was never really made for them

It's MSQ content. It was, by definition, made for everyone. I know you talked down on people's experiences with alts, but they're still characters who need to go through it to get to the rest of the content. And if I'm out of things to run on my main and alt will be at the stage where I need to run them through this, I can't guarantee I'll find the motivation to take them through it instead of playing something else because I'm not big on afking and doing something else while waiting for a cutscene to run its course. As much as SE keeps saying they don't mind people taking breaks, 1. no one really believes them, 2. hazardous from a business stand-point, 3. there's a customer's faith in the company to take into consideration that they're not really addressing. Forcing your users into unskippable cutscenes if violent, intrusive, and sets a very dangerous precedent.
Thing is, honestly, they couldn't have left this change only with the roulette because the first timers can't queue for the roulette. It's not an oversight, it's by design, it's just a bad one.

[Krotoan]

It's MSQ content. It was, by definition, made for everyone.

The roulette is not made for everyone. It was created because people were needed to fill runs for newbies. It was MADE to facilitate getting new people through a dungeon that people had little to no reason to queue for. Of course the MSQ is for everyone, but the roulette had a very blatantly obvious reason for implementation.


1. you have no basis for this claim. You can only speak for yourself and possibly the anecdotal evidence from forum posts, of which I've seen very little actual disagreement with the fact they expect us to play casually and take breaks. I've in fact seen lament from people who see this attitude as counteractive to SE's production of "content" and wish they didn't have this policy. Thus I have just as much evidence to counter your perception as you have to counter mine. Null sum resulting. Neither of us can prove one way or the other that this actually is or isn't their actual attitude towards their playerbase.

2. Apparently not since they're doing decent business and post growing numbers and profit. Yet, this also cannot be directly correlated or disconnected from their supposed attitude. Since it cannot be proven or dis-proven, also unarguable.

3 For one roulette you can choose to skip if you want unless you're running alts in which case I agree something should be done. However securing a new customer and passing them into your currently maintained content vs making an old customer deal with a minor inconvenience (should they choose to initiate it) seems easily decided.

In the scheme of the endgame this is a minor thing. It's one roulette for a vet, but it's a gate to the rest of the game and investment in a developing story for a sprout. While I'd rather they let people unsynch it with no forced cutscenes, if it's all or nothing I'm going to side with unskippable every time. The value of the initial experience vs "well my alt.. " is a no-contest.