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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    1. You do not force people do something. You give them a choice. Making people watch cut scenes because a select few do not know how to communicate should not be happening. That is extreme babying and pretty insulting in my view.
    2. You do not make a change that harms the majority because of a few outspoken minority, I do not see forced changed on PotD, a place that has higher frequency of complainants of "speed running"
    3. You do not make a change half baked, it clearly was in the fact it had on the inn and pf/unsync/ premade groups
    4. Lack of contamination by development. Are they keeping silent because they do not want to admit of making a change that had a "positive" effect on the select few? there is even new players that do not want to sit there and have to watch these. I bet you they outnumber the people that care about the CS too, but you are not going to hear about them because in the past, there was nothing effecting them in a negative light.
    5. they stated the rewards would compensate for the time spent, they don't. You want vets to help out while having to watch these things? give 200 current tomes, otherwise those that care how their time spent is not going to bother.
    6. If they really wanted to address this problem (if one really existed on a mass scale, and it clearly doesn't since this small change happened 2 expansions later) they would make it solo instance with squads or something.
    7. This change harms everyone, longer queue times because less people are willing to do it.

    People that care about these CS is clearly a minority because look how many threads are made on that issue? and the fact most runs went without issue? esp with talking to people? the fact it was changed after all this time? I think there is lot of circumstantial evidence that points this was a hasty change based on the minority. Saying "we have no real proof" is not going to change my mind, not with how many times I ran that.

    Also I think it deserves to be noted not only by my personal experience, or this coming from that, it is also coming from others I know, and one of them leveled 50-60 DRG off purely in it during HW, then again 60-70 in SB before this change. Along with running it daily to help other jobs.
    My thoughts:

    1. SE obviously felt it was important enough to change their game to make those 2 instances in particular more-friendly to sprouts. Force-feeding the CSs was a bit of a shock to most people, but at this point we get the choice of whether or not the MSQ roulette is still worth the effort. I personally think it's OK- at least while I'm still leveling up jobs - as it does give a nice chunk of XP. Once I'm done leveling, I'll probably never touch it again.

    As I mentioned earlier, I think as long as the queue for DPS can remain at around 20 minutes, that's really not too bad. I just don't know how long that will hold up, and obviously if it increases, only the sprouts will suffer.

    2. We don't know if this is harming the majority of players. People are (currently) still running it, and so the MSQ roulette is still functional. The point of that was to lure Veteran players into incredibly outdated content to help get new players through the MSQ.

    3. Again, this is a decsion call by SE. They have all the data. Nothing about those two dungeons are ideal. They've gone from one bandaid to the next. Unless they change it to a solo instance, it's never going to have a fantastic solution

    4. Communication with the NA players has always been ....not great. Do wish they'd bump up their community representation, because as it is, there is just a lot of stewing going on.

    5. This is a matter of opinions. I am actually content with the XP rewards. The tomes, I couldn't give a rat's ass about, but the XP is nice. As mentioned, I will probably only run the roulette while I am leveling a job. I do agree they could have done something better with the tomes reward - maybe switch this to the highest tomes. It feels like SE is a bit out of touch with the tomes. They practically force feed us Poetics, and it's really only good for Relics / level 50 ironworks gear

    6. I agree. A solo instance would have been fantastic. And they've implemented AI for some of the lower dungeons - wish they would have made the effort to do the same for CM/Prae.

    SE doesn't seem to want to have to rework a lot of things when it comes to coding/server issues. XIV has made them bank, and it feels like they are fed the tiniest budget to attempt to get things to work. Boggles the mind.

    7. While it does obviously affect everyone's time, it's not necessarily harming everyone. It's just a matter of deciding if the extra time is worth the XP/tomes bonus. Some people try to maximize every last second of their time in game - others do not. For those people who do try to maximize, you have other avenues that you can take advantage of for your exp/tomes. I actually had a lot of fun in my first Prae run. People were chatting almost the whole time, and that was nice for once.

    Now again, if queue times shoot up dramatically, once the newness of the change wears off, that is definitely an issue - but for better or worse we will have to wait to see how that plays out. It's far too early to claim this is harming everyone.

    Speaking of minorities - the people who post on the Official Forums are actually a minority. Just because we have threads about X, Y, Z does not necessarily mean that the whole playerbase feels that way as the majority of the playerbase is NOT represented on the forums.

    Anyway, we're all allowed to have our own thoughts on the matter - people just need to chill with the insults and antagonizing.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 02-06-2018 at 04:34 AM.