Please Reconsider MSQ Changes

[Skivvy]

They prob did this from simply getting tired of listening to the outspoken minority, not realizing the majority would not be happy.

You continue to speak as if you know numbers, you don't. No one does. It really doesn't help anyone's cause to constantly throw out statements like this as they're quite easy to dismiss.

that never happened, people only kicked new players if they where being overly obnoxious in mouthing off to people about speed running when it is explained time and time again, a lot of people did it a 100+ times and that be a good idea to watch at inn or make a pf if they are that bothered that much over it. (even then some groups put up with it and cleared it anyway)

Also, I've been in a group that kicked a sprout, seemingly for nothing more than watching CSs. Was just once, but to claim it never happens isn't true.

What exactly is your complaint with the change? It's been lost in all the back and forth over these last several pages.

I solo queued as a BLM, and it was about a 20 minute wait. If that queue time can be maintained after this initial patch release, that's really not that bad. Sprouts will continue to get their MSQ done in a fairly timely manner.

My current complaint, after giving it a go myself, is that the CSs are unskippable in parties without sprouts and even PF groups. That is just a weird decision all around. I don't think CSs should be forced in either of those cases.

It would be nice for them to also implement a vote to skip the CS, but I can't see that working well with this community. If the vote failed, I imagine there could be hounding of the new player, vote/dismiss abuse, and spoilers thrown out just to spite whomever they think didn't vote "yes" to skipping.

[Vstarstruck]

Also, I've been in a group that kicked a sprout, seemingly for nothing more than watching CSs. Was just once, but to claim it never happens isn't true.

Ya ok, I never seen that happen outside once and it was not even for that. It was by the time you get in the middle of it, and the person did not move from the start point or said anything, it had nothing to do with watching cut scenes. What if you are assuming it was for that because of no communication?

What exactly is your complaint with the change? It's been lost in all the back and forth over these last several pages.

I been repeating it over and over again to those select few that keep defending this and it keeps getting ignored.

1. You do not force people do something. You give them a choice. Making people watch cut scenes because a select few do not know how to communicate should not be happening. That is extreme babying and pretty insulting in my view.
2. You do not make a change that harms the majority because of a few outspoken minority, I do not see forced changed on PotD, a place that has higher frequency of complainants of "speed running"
3. You do not make a change half baked, it clearly was in the fact it had on the inn and pf/unsync/ premade groups
4. Lack of contamination by development. Are they keeping silent because they do not want to admit of making a change that had a "positive" effect on the select few? there is even new players that do not want to sit there and have to watch these. I bet you they outnumber the people that care about the CS too, but you are not going to hear about them because in the past, there was nothing effecting them in a negative light.
5. they stated the rewards would compensate for the time spent, they don't. You want vets to help out while having to watch these things? give 200 current tomes, otherwise those that care how their time spent is not going to bother.
6. If they really wanted to address this problem (if one really existed on a mass scale, and it clearly doesn't since this small change happened 2 expansions later) they would make it solo instance with squads or something.
7. This change harms everyone, longer queue times because less people are willing to do it.

People that care about these CS is clearly a minority because look how many threads are made on that issue? and the fact most runs went without issue? esp with talking to people? the fact it was changed after all this time? I think there is lot of circumstantial evidence that points this was a hasty change based on the minority. Saying "we have no real proof" is not going to change my mind, not with how many times I ran that.

Also I think it deserves to be noted not only by my personal experience, or this coming from that, it is also coming from others I know, and one of them leveled 50-60 DRG off purely in it during HW, then again 60-70 in SB before this change. Along with running it daily to help other jobs.