Please Reconsider MSQ Changes

[XiXiQ]

This way people who want can watch CS, while other can skip it and still wait fo those who watch CS.

I don't see the point of this, it does not save anyone any time at all. I'd prefer to be watching a cutscene than a bunch of people standing about doing nothing. (and yes, it only serves to point out those who are watching so you know who to kick if it suits you - which was the original problem)

[Jxnibbles]

I don't see the point of this, it does not save anyone any time at all. I'd prefer to be watching a cutscene than a bunch of people standing about doing nothing. (and yes, it only serves to point out those who are watching so you know who to kick if it suits you - which was the original problem)

People who actually know what they are doing won't be doing "Nothing". Players can desynth and make gil technically while waiting.. Players can have stacks of 999 desynths if they know the right items.

We could wait at a roadblock and desynth instead we have auto cutscenes for 30 minutes. I could be doing something that I need to do while waiting on the new player who are watching cutscenes. As for the players who can't desynth they can go make food or something else in real life. If players wanted to wait for a new player in the cutscene before 4.2.. I could wait and desynth and still do something. I no longer get this option..

[Krotoan]

As someone who has 16 characters (I know it's a ridiculous amount) 15 who have to do these two MSQ dungeons at some point, it makes me never want to bother with it. Each one takes 30-50 minutes (just estimating) and I have to do that 30 times if you count both?

I see this point being brought up a lot. "I have # of characters that means I have to do this # of times". .. well yeah.
I get it sounds like a long time, and ideally they'll remove the unskippable part from solo/unsynched queues, but for some perspective, it's maybe one night of gaming for ALL of it.
Sure if you brought all of your 15 characters to these points at the same time.. and ran them through the MSQ at the same time it would add up. But is it so bad to do it one at a time? How much playtime have you spent in total? As a % of your total playtime, what part of it is that 2 hours for all 3 quests?

YES you need the choice to do it by yourself and how you want, I agree there, but as it is now stating that "oh my goodness I have so many characters I have to push through it, it is going to take forever." is very odd considering you're willing to put in the hundreds of hours it'll take to do the rest of the quests and leveling.

Maybe I should be posting this in "unpopular opinions" but it doesn't seem like this is all that compelling an argument, just a minor bump on your way to MSQ completion.

[Hakuro89]

Make cutscenes unskippable. Increase reward to 200 useless tomes.



Yeah, I'm... probably never running that one again.
Not that I did in the first place, but really SE?

[NephthysVasudan]

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This is becoming a tiresome excuse...yes you heard me... EXCUSE.

Its pathetic....you're talking about 2 measly dungeons you only need to run ONCE....not twice...not thrice...ONCE.
This argument is a waste of time. We/I don't care if you have multiple toons to and need to run things...that is your choice to bear...your burden to carry. You have to do everything over again anyway....and your throwing a damn fit over an extra 30 mins to an hour of time watching cut-scenes? Get over it..seriously.

If your going to commit making an alt...your going to do the job regardless....stop using this as a convenient baseball bat.

[Vstarstruck]

This is becoming a tiresome excuse...yes you heard me... EXCUSE.

Its pathetic....you're talking about 2 measly dungeons you only need to run ONCE....not twice...not thrice...ONCE.
This argument is a waste of time. We/I don't care if you have multiple toons to and need to run things...that is your choice to bear...your burden to carry. You have to do everything over again anyway....and your throwing a damn fit over an extra 30 mins to an hour of time watching cut-scenes? Get over it..seriously.

If your going to commit making an alt...your going to do the job regardless....stop using this as a convenient baseball bat.

You white knighting a bad change what is pathetic

The person said twice because there is 2 dungeons, 2 x 15=30 runs, and they do not want to do it, and it is a reasonable complaint. This game needs to be f more friendly to leveling alts in general.

You know what? I know how turn it around. New players should be able deal with people wanting to speed run the dungeon because they do not want to sit and watch something for the 100th time. People could respect and let them watch the CS (and what I see happen most of the time without continuous bickering) while people that want to get in and get out do so.

6 or 7 people speed running does not prevent 1 or 2 not to watch them. It is not like you need 8 people to clear it.

[NephthysVasudan]

You white knighting a bad change what is pathetic

The person said twice because there is 2 dungeons, 2 x 15=30 runs, and they do not want to do it, and it is a reasonable complaint. This game needs to be f more friendly to leveling alts in general.

You not reading or paying attention is very foolish of you. I suggest you try again. I won't bother educating someone who won't pay attention to the nuances of the discussion.

[Vstarstruck]

You not reading or paying attention is very foolish of you. I suggest you try again. I won't bother educating someone who won't pay attention to the nuances of the discussion.

I suggest to you to post without being insulting.

I was trying to explain what they meant, trying to calm you down, and you just made the problem bigger. Telling me I do not pay attention when you are the one having that problem? OK!

[AlyssaWildheart]

This is becoming a tiresome excuse...yes you heard me... EXCUSE.

Its pathetic....you're talking about 2 measly dungeons you only need to run ONCE....not twice...not thrice...ONCE.
This argument is a waste of time. We/I don't care if you have multiple toons to and need to run things...that is your choice to bear...your burden to carry. You have to do everything over again anyway....and your throwing a damn fit over an extra 30 mins to an hour of time watching cut-scenes? Get over it..seriously.

If your going to commit making an alt...your going to do the job regardless....stop using this as a convenient baseball bat.

Im not the pathetic one, I dont insult people on the forums just for opinions. Its not an excuse, but then again I dont have to justify myself to you.

[hydralus]

I dunno if it's been brought up already, but I think they could honestly shave off 20 minutes of these cutscenes and still have the same effect.

You PROBABLY don't need to see an airship flying up into the sky, or to see a generic mech walk out, or spotlights turning off, or the dozens of other 'filler' cutscenes they have. The ones where people actually talk I'd say they can leave those in, but that's only at the end of the dungeons. To me the vast majority of the 8-man dungeon cutscenes were painfully boring and not worth the wait. Heck even the spoken cutscenes are frightfully stiff and inexpressive, but at least something is being said.

To use another game as an example of expressive cutscenes, I refer to Blade and Soul. It has a fair number of cutscenes - not as many as FFXIV, but certainly more active. You've got people jumping all over the place, characters being sassy or jokey or downright silly or even threatening and imposing. It might not be everyone's taste, but I hope we can all agree that people moving around instead of standing there like a paper cutout is better.