Please Reconsider MSQ Changes

[Anarnee]

The hundreds of hours you will have invested in those alternate characters to get through the story nullifies your argument about time. The hour-and-a-half you would spend potentially on each character for this section is a fraction of what you will spend doing the story as a whole, each time. You will spend more than 7 hours just doing the hundred Quests between A Realm Reborn and heavensward for one character. If you want to talk about a time waster that would give you more credibility.

No, it does not, because I enjoy doing those quests again, I don't mind it, I can skip the CS if I don't like it, I use to be able to do that with CM and Prae, now I can not, and that is not ok. There is no reason I shouldn't be able to do quests at whatever pace fits me, but now I'm being forced to sit through something that I do not enjoy.

[Reynhart]

There is no reason I shouldn't be able to do quests at whatever pace fits me, but now I'm being forced to sit through something that I do not enjoy.

Considering you already spend so much time leveling 8 characters, you'll do those dungeons for each of them when the time comes, even if you don't like it, so it won't change anything wether you complain or not.

[Anarnee]

Considering you already spend so much time leveling 8 characters, you'll do those dungeons for each of them when the time comes, even if you don't like it, so it won't change anything wether you complain or not.

No, I will not, and I will be heard, whether you like it or not. If you don't agree with me it's one thing, but being rude and trying to shut me down it not ok, because my opinion and feedback is just as valid as yours.

I -LOVE- ffxiv. I have played this game since 2013.

I love this community and I love the world. I bought my brand new PS3 for this game, and I bought my brand new PS4 for this game only months after that.

I have always hated the situation with CM and Prae, because five years ago THAT WAS ME.

I ran CM and Prae, and was told by my FC, my FRIENDS at the time, to skip the cut scenes, and THAT F#$%(*% sucked! I had no idea what happened in the story and I didn't go back to the inn to watch the scenes because I was past it, I wanted to move on with the story. It does not make sense to play the story in such a disjointed manner.

It has taken them FIVE YEARS and THIS is the solution?

I never got to see those scenes until I leveled BRD on my main and decided I wanted to DUO main BRD and DRG so I leveled my second character to 50 and by the grace of Hydaelyn, I got a group that had people running Prae for newbies, and they INSISTED, on waiting, so it was then running with my alt that I finally got to experience what I had missed.

I even made another alt on their server, Gilgamesh, to join their fc, and leveled that character there, so that I could help this group with their CS runs of CM and Prae.

Because I wanted people to have that opportunity too!

Years pass and they do something about it, and it is THIS?


FIVE YEARS and this is what they've come up with?

No, this is just as lazy as their solutions for housing, this is a band-aid over a festering wound and is not really fixing the core issue at all.
The dungeons are badly paced and they are the reason we have never gotten 8man dungeons again. Though they could easily put more in, if they paced them as they do the current content. They have obviously learned a lesson but not the right one, and they've not really FIXED CM or Prae. There were MANY other ways to do this and I am disappointed.

Yoshi-P laughed and said make a new character if I want to experience things in the story again, like solo instances, well guess what. I did, I have. And now you're getting in the way of my experience of that too?

That is not fair.
I'm all for helping new people to experience the story, but I'm never going to agree to something at the expense of other players too.
That is not ok. This is not a solution. It's a waste of my time that I could be putting into a different part of the game that I do actually like.

Instead of trying to shut down people that have input, how about giving some actual input yourself?

[Jijifli]

Considering you already spend so much time leveling 8 characters, you'll do those dungeons for each of them when the time comes, even if you don't like it, so it won't change anything wether you complain or not.

If you had to do something you didn't like, would you rather it take 15 minutes or 45 minutes?

[Reynhart]

If you had to do something you didn't like, would you rather it take 15 minutes or 45 minutes?

Did new players really had a choice for the past 5 years ?
If this community didn't have enough jerks to make this roulette clearly a problem, they wouldn't have to put that kind of solution. Which, again, is still offering nice rewards for the time you spend on it.

[BillyKaplan]

Did new players really had a choice for the past 5 years ?

Two wrongs don't make a right. The fact it hasn't been done right until now doesn't mean it should be done wrong but in a different way. There's no reason why I shouldn't be able to go in there unsynced and run the thing as I damn well please where I absolutely will not affect anyone, or even synced but with a full premade where everyone agreed on how to run it. It's the most basic of basics and this completely ignores it, especially in a game which is supposed to be FUN. And don't start with me about how poor sprouts suffered those five years, I never said the old situation was alright. There's no moral high-ground in your stance, only spite and vindictiveness.

[Anarnee]

Did new players really had a choice for the past 5 years ?
If this community didn't have enough jerks to make this roulette clearly a problem, they wouldn't have to put that kind of solution. Which, again, is still offering nice rewards for the time you spend on it.

It's a worthless reward to me, 400 poetics? I've been capped on poetics since before Sb. The roulette was put in place because no one was running those dungeons. I'd rather they got rid of the roulette again, rather than make the scenes un-skipable. This is ten steps backwards.

You don't care about peoples experiences, don't pretend like you do now after trying to shut people down for trying to give their pov.

Not everyone has been a jerk in the community, and no one else should have to suffer for what SE themselves implemented poorly.

[Reynhart]

It's a worthless reward to me, 400 poetics? I've been capped on poetics since before Sb. The roulette was put in place because no one was running those dungeons. I'd rather they got rid of the roulette again, rather than make the scenes un-skipable. This is ten steps backwards.

No, your idea is ten steps backwards. If you don't need the roulette, then don't do it. Don't assume that everyone shouldn't be able to run it because you don't like and don't need it.

You don't care about peoples experiences, don't pretend like you do now after trying to shut people down for trying to give their pov.

Don't speak about things you don't know, you're only making a fool of yourself. And I don't "shut people down". It's just that lots of people complain that the game is dead because this and this, and, months later they're still paying they subscription like good sheep. And I'm pretty sure you'll be there with your 8 characters, too.

Not everyone has been a jerk in the community, and no one else should have to suffer for what SE themselves implemented poorly.

Again, if you don't need the roulette, why do you pretend suffering from this ? No one forces you to run it.

[Anarnee]

No, your idea is ten steps backwards. If you don't need the roulette, then don't do it. Don't assume that everyone shouldn't be able to run it because you don't like and don't need it.

Don't speak about things you don't know, you're only making a fool of yourself. And I don't "shut people down". It's just that lots of people complain that the game is dead because this and this, and, months later they're still paying they subscription like good sheep. And I'm pretty sure you'll be there with your 8 characters, too.

Again, if you don't need the roulette, why do you pretend suffering from this ? No one forces you to run it.

Lets start at the beginning of the five years.

No one queued for Prae or CM because there was no reward for doing it that was worth it to anyone. At first people chain ran it for tomes, and newbies got left behind still. Then no one ran it anymore, because those tomes were worthless.

SEs solution. MS Roulette. Queue times fixed. It is being ran over and over. But the problem still remains, newbies are being left behind.

Now years later, as a result of this roulette. Both CM and Prae have MANDATORY CS. Regardless of if you run it in the roulette or not.

It's not just about roulette, its about the two MSQ dungeons, having the cutscenes unskippable NO MATTER WHAT.

And if the roulette queue dies off, this queue will be fed by the Mentor roulette. Which I do from time to time. I set aside a lot of time for mentor roulette, because I've gotten many EX primals in it. Nidhogg, Ifrit, Bismark, Ramuh, Garuda, all of the past extreme primals. I would rather get, and throw my face at for an hour.

No. I'm watching 30mins of CS in Prae.

You did try to shut me down. If saying "Considering you already spend so much time leveling 8 characters, you'll do those dungeons for each of them when the time comes, even if you don't like it, so it won't change anything wether you complain or not." Isn't a "shut up you'll do it and stop complaining." comment I don't know what is.

It's effecting MORE than that one roulette, It's affecting anyone deciding they want to go through the main story again even if they don't run the failed roulette.

[Jijifli]

Did new players really had a choice for the past 5 years ?

Are you going to pretend this gave a new player choice? Technically they have even less of a choice, because before the change they could have gotten a party together to see the cutscenes if they wanted to. Now if a new player didn't want to see the 50 cutscenes, they don't get a word on it. THEIR opinion didn't seem to matter.