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  1. #331
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    Osa Modas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceallach View Post
    Maybe people should learn to be more selfless instead of griping about changes that their own actions basically forced.
    I agree with this entirely.

    After loving the story up to that point, my experience with those dungeons nearly killed the whole thing for me. I wanted to participate in the fights, but I also wanted to know what was going on, so I watched the scenes on YouTube. It was not at all the same, and I still found myself struggling to keep up and barely got to do anything because I still had to wait for the scenes to load up anyway since I had never seen them before.

    I'm more than happy to que up for MSQ roulette now, if only to keep this from happening to others. Yes, it is an absurd amount of scenes for a group dungeon. But I say if you don't have the time or patience, don't run roulette and just tick the ones you actually like to run. What good is XP if you're going to ruin someone else's experience and aren't having fun, yourself?
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  2. #332
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    People who act all high and mighty in this thread need to seriously chill. No one who's complaining is going to be majorly hurt by this. At all. You don't want us to queue? You seriously want less people going into those dungeons?
    Why do you think that roulette was established in the first place? An abundance of good souls to help newbies clear ARR?
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  3. #333
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    Mavrias's Avatar
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepyPoposa View Post
    I agree with this entirely.

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    I'm more than happy to que up for MSQ roulette now, if only to keep this from happening to others. Yes, it is an absurd amount of scenes for a group dungeon. But I say if you don't have the time or patience, don't run roulette and just tick the ones you actually like to run. What good is XP if you're going to ruin someone else's experience and aren't having fun, yourself?
    Cool. Do you plan to do MSQ and only MSQ for all of your playtime so that newbies can always get in? And are you gonna make alts on other data centers too to help those sprouts as well? What happens when you're at work/class/asleep?
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  4. #334
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    Lia Via
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    I have heard that on JP servers they wait on new players watching cutscenes.

    So its like on JP servers if you cant wait on new players watching cutsences, don't queue roulette for story dungeons
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  5. #335
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    Cynric Zerr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuo View Post
    I have heard that on JP servers they wait on new players watching cutscenes.

    So its like on JP servers if you cant wait on new players watching cutsences, don't queue roulette for story dungeons
    Fine and dandy for Japan, but this is America, Britain, Germany, France, Australia...insert literally any other country here. Just because they do it in Japan, doesn't mean it should be thrust upon the rest of the world.
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  6. #336
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    Hestzhyen Voer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    Fine and dandy for Japan, but this is America, Britain, Germany, France, Australia...insert literally any other country here. Just because they do it in Japan, doesn't mean it should be thrust upon the rest of the world.
    Too bad for us this is a game that was created by Japanese developers who live in Japan... :P

    I'm positive they get reports of how we've been playing the game, which is why they're making the change in the first place. But I have to wonder if they understand the fundamental differences between Japan and the west that led to this situation... their choice of solution tells me they don't seem to.
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  7. #337
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    Which is also why we have different servers. The JP players in XI were horrible to do anything with. Always <English><no thanks> or using us to complete trials and then having their blm warp us out before loot could drop. So JP players aren't all squeaky clean as the more jp obsessed make them sound either. It was always JP vs NA/EU in XI because frankly they were jerks to us.

    But when you have a worldwide game, cultural considerations have to be taken into account. NA players wont go for this change so it will hurt overall and they need to consider that.
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  8. #338
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    I doubt ppl gonna use as much as before the MSQ roulette, since the incentive for most was the fast/free exp. Maybe if becomes an issue with newbies unable to queue due insufficient players or roles, they'll revert this or go by other solution.
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  9. #339
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Eh, the problem is that NA players are too used to being bribed to do things now. At some point you have to view things as giving back, but the problem I think is no one even gave forward in the first place. They more or less force players to act as a community through bribes, and people responded by trying to minimize the time needed till they got their shinies. But you can't force people to give forward by locking the cutscenes, and they are having issues with trying to force community actions through reward and punish gameplay.

    Kind of the end of the WoW model of solo serverless play, I guess.
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  10. #340
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    Which is also why we have different servers. The JP players in XI were horrible to do anything with. Always <English><no thanks> or using us to complete trials and then having their blm warp us out before loot could drop. So JP players aren't all squeaky clean as the more jp obsessed make them sound either. It was always JP vs NA/EU in XI because frankly they were jerks to us.

    But when you have a worldwide game, cultural considerations have to be taken into account. NA players wont go for this change so it will hurt overall and they need to consider that.
    Hell that's why the JPONRY meme came about. My friends who played FFXI have so many stories that are similar...
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