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  1. #271
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    NaoTenbe's Avatar
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    N'ao Tenbe
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 72

    What'll end up happening...

    first week, people will be confused, frustrated, some will leave, others will stick it through, thinking they can handle it. They'll handle it the first 2-3 times, and after that, will swear off this dungeon set ever again.
    after first week, and during 2nd week, you'll see people asking for runs through the specific dungeons so they can get through them at all.
    After 2nd week, SE will have the numbers in, and probably make a decision on either keeping things as they are, or changing them back.
    You can say various things about Yoshi P, but he's not a braindead corperate minion.
    Nor is he a blizz employee who thinks he knows what's best for the players. If something's wrong, he fixes it. I fully expect him TO fix this, it'll just depend upon the time frame.
    My guess is, what'll end up happening is they'll make it so the entire group has to choose to skip the cutscenes before they can move on. Which can be a problem with slow clickers. Like myself.
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  2. #272
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    SourDragonfly's Avatar
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    Rehal Dandelion
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    Typhon
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    Scholar Lv 70
    My guess is, what'll end up happening is they'll make it so the entire group has to choose to skip the cutscenes before they can move on. Which can be a problem with slow clickers. Like myself.
    What if they are going to change all the cutscenes in there to not clickable too?
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  3. #273
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    Ayer2015's Avatar
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    Ayer Austen
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Maybe those speedrunners are thinking too much high of themselves and that without them, the game will die. Let's see when patch goes out for a reality check.
    People always think of themselves in this game, and that want they want the majority wants. People often forget the forums are only reflective of a small portion of the actual player base.
    Lets see how the rewards change first perhaps...
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  4. #274
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    N'ao Tenbe
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 72
    They're already going to make them not clickable. A ...compromise, would be to make it so the entire group has to skip before it'll skip. meaning one person could hold up the show if they wanted to. Also thinking about it, with this new change, will the dialouge be set as far as how fast it can be read, or can people spam clicking through it to get through faster? Lord knows nero will NOT shut up.
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  5. #275
    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Why should we queue it? Why would someone be selfish to say that they wont run a content anymore that could take hours to complete?
    This is a problem beyond msq though. 50/60 queue currently offers zero incentive for many people to do it, because we have no relic making verity and poetic tomes near worthless. Stuff like Guildhests are worthless too for 70s. A lot of the reason people did older content was really the relic, since you needed an absurd level of tomes to complete it. They are going to need to look at older content overall and evaluate it, because this just increases as time passes. I see ppl in PF looking for stuff like antitower or other basic things cause they wait so long in individual queue.
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  6. #276
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    LaurieB's Avatar
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    Lunataria Carreing
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    Goblin
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    Archer Lv 70
    "My suggestion is to just remove it from duty roulette entirely and change it into a personal instance, allowing the player better interaction with the duty." This is a great idea. So many times I've wished this was the case because left behind, cursed at, kicked, is no fun to try to watch cut scenes. I would love to go back and actually see them without the hostile attached to it. This would be great.
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  7. #277
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    Nezerius's Avatar
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    Lets see how the rewards change first perhaps...
    Unless they sneak in an exp increase from doing the instance, this is the only change to the rewards:
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  8. #278
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    FunkYeahDragons's Avatar
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    Cafe Miel
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Cutscenes could be moved and redone to fit before and after the queue, not during the instance itself. Newbies enjoy at their leisure and veterans don't have to watch anything. Even when I was a newbie with people telling me to watch, I thought it was unfun. I would be casting on a tank surrounded by AOE markers and then get yanked into a cutscene about, of all things, a spotlight turning off.

    Or, yeah, make it a solo instance. Both from a gameplay and a storytelling perspective, these dungeons are just strange.
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  9. #279
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    Hestzhyen's Avatar
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    Hestzhyen Voer
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Sorry SE, 200 Poetics isn't near enough to get me to run this roulette. Unless a massive EXP boost is not being mentioned, count me out of these dungeons.

    I think Mentor Roulette will be picking up the slack and dumping 7 mentors into the instances so 1 sprout can run it after they wait an hour to get in. If that's not frustrating, I don't know what is. I might have to stay away from BOTH roulettes now.
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  10. #280
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    cheba70's Avatar
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    Zypp Rom
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    Exodus
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    Archer Lv 54
    As a new player to the game, the first run of Ultimate weapon I watched the first cut scene and was totally lost. The group had moved so fast I didn't get it right, mostly my fault for not paying attention. Second time I had most cut scenes done and completed the run. I definitely do not want to watch all of them again over and over. Wouldn't a better solution be to have the option to watch them at the end, sort of a recap deal? Heck almost everything in life is a rerun anyway. Being forced to do anything like this in a game is kind of resentful to me, but then again I have always been an independent Rebel.
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