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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalaRu View Post
    Maybe those speedrunners are thinking too much high of themselves and that without them, the game will die. Let's see when patch goes out for a reality check.
    This.To me the fact they made this change would imply an influx of newer players.
    If there's many more new players comeing a long they will be able to party up anyway to complete it.
    We were all new at one point and a lot of us did this together without any players with clears helping.Its easier now anyway and im sure fc's will still help players clear it.
    While a lot of players are trying to claim it will cripple new players their real gripe is not being able to use it for fast tomes and xp which was not the intent of the story roulette in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    We were all new at one point and a lot of us did this together without any players with clears helping.Its easier now anyway and im sure fc's will still help players clear it.
    While a lot of players are trying to claim it will cripple new players their real gripe is not being able to use it for fast tomes and xp which was not the intent of the story roulette in the first place.
    Players were already speedrunning/trying to get people to skip cutscenes in CM/Prae after the first few weeks of ARR (more so CM than Prae) since it was the best source of philo tomes.

    If you honestly think this won't have a significant effect on queue times, then I don't know what to tell you. A good amount of people aren't going to sit into a dungeon for an extra 30 min for an extra 80 poetics.

    A better incentive would be adding creation and mendacity tomes for the first daily clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Players were already speedrunning/trying to get people to skip cutscenes in CM/Prae after the first few weeks of ARR (more so CM than Prae) since it was the best source of philo tomes.

    If you honestly think this won't have a significant effect on queue times, then I don't know what to tell you. A good amount of people aren't going to sit into a dungeon for an extra 30 min for an extra 80 poetics.

    A better incentive would be adding creation and mendacity tomes for the first daily clear.
    Given the amount of people leveling dps and other jobs through story roulette you may also want to remember that this may make the queue times longer sometimes as i dont recall there being an algorithm that prioritises new players for the queues so for all we know to some extent it may shorten the time for new players doing it but then make it longer on off peak times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    This.To me the fact they made this change would imply an influx of newer players.
    If there's many more new players comeing a long they will be able to party up anyway to complete it.
    We were all new at one point and a lot of us did this together without any players with clears helping.Its easier now anyway and im sure fc's will still help players clear it.
    While a lot of players are trying to claim it will cripple new players their real gripe is not being able to use it for fast tomes and xp which was not the intent of the story roulette in the first place.
    There was someone on reddit that queued for the main story roulette this week and waited over an hour...cant have so much new players if it takes that long to even fill now when people still queue for it. I already waited a lot of time in queue as a DD when it was still ARR..only the roulette seems to have helped the queue times a bit and if people dont go into that roulette anymore we will at least get back to the old wait times if not longer...

    People are just going to use other methods to farm xp and tomes (alliance roulette for example ). Its truly just the newer players that will be hurt by that. You will have those that dont want to watch cutscenes even if they are new and that are now forced. You will have those that will wait longer thanks to people not using that roulette anymore and I doubt that a FC is truly that willing to run each single new member through this. We tried that with our old FC where we would pull a handfull of new players through that. Even without the change and waiting for them it was getting annoying quite fast.

    So no this will be bad for newer players.
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